updated pics of my saluki pup

[Robbieboy 0]

Belting looking pups.. atb with them.. :thumbs-up: hope thay go well

[Guest gaz100604]

Good luck with these stunners lads,the breedings there, that Tobey sure knocks out some classy pups seen him on fen fever, good dog, credit to its owner, atb Richard

 

All pups from this litter look stunning mate,, Plenty of cruise blood in them. Lets hope the lads put it too good use, look forward to seeing what they turn out like in the not so distant future

 

 

quote of the month there bowers mate , you sold hob ferret a pup last year and he sold it when it was not even 6months old it was resold again and correct me if im wrong but the 3rd owner left the pup for dead of the fens cos it wouldnt catch long ears at 7months old and here we are again bowers what do you do sell hob ferret another pup and then come on with shite statements like above hope the money was worth it pal

[FENS FEVER 147]

i dont no a lot about the owners of thease pups but i no one thing bowers nos how to breed a pup,i think they are crackers and i wish the lads all the luck in the world with them

[Guest gaz100604]

i dont no a lot about the owners of thease pups but i no one thing bowers nos how to breed a pup,i think they are crackers and i wish the lads all the luck in the world with them

 

 

i have no doubt about his breeding ability but he was told about the pup "sting" hobferret sold and then was sold and resold and then left on fens, wtf would you then sell him another pup maybe he kan come on and tell me

[arcticgun 4,548]

Good luck with these stunners lads,the breedings there, that Tobey sure knocks out some classy pups seen him on fen fever, good dog, credit to its owner, atb Richard

 

All pups from this litter look stunning mate,, Plenty of cruise blood in them. Lets hope the lads put it too good use, look forward to seeing what they turn out like in the not so distant future

 

 

quote of the month there bowers mate , you sold hob ferret a pup last year and he sold it when it was not even 6months old it was resold again and correct me if im wrong but the 3rd owner left the pup for dead of the fens cos it wouldnt catch long ears at 7months old and here we are again bowers what do you do sell hob ferret another pup and then come on with shite statements like above hope the money was worth it pal

 

Don't know too much about Hob_ferrets last pup, I vaguely remember the pup being for sale, however what happens to the pup after the breeder sells it, is not Bowers fault. I have noticed that Hobf has built some excellent kennels that must of cost a bomb,and his other dog looks well looked after, and the pup will not have been cheap. maybe its a case of last time he messed up and wasn't really aware of the commitment, passed the pup on but again not his fault if some scum bag left it to die on the fen cause it wouldn't catch at 7 month (the person should be shot IMHO).

 

As said I really do not know the in's and out's of the situation, nobody does except him and the lad who bought it. However he is a young lad and should be given a chance with this pup, the problem with the internet forums some people find it hard to articulate in arguements and can come off looking like tw@ts, when in fact they may well be sound. Good luck to the lad and his dog!

 

atvb Richard

[Guest gaz100604]

a well typed out reply but all b@llox if you ask me money talks he wouldnt of got another pup off me thats for sure

[arcticgun 4,548]

a well typed out reply but all b@llox if you ask me money talks he wouldnt of got another pup off me thats for sure

 

Your quite possibly right mate only time will tell the fella who sold me my bitch has the right idea, he visits potential buyers homes several times, unannounced, doesn't mind putting the time in getting to know prespective owners, then makes a descision when he is 100% sure they are suitable,this is before the buyer has even seen the pup. He also offers a buy back if things don't work out. I was very impressed with the way he went about things. other breeders I spoke to with a few notable exceptions, where more interested in the money than finding suitable homes.

 

As I tried to make clear in my post I don't know the in's and out's of the situation regarding these lads and there dogs,nor do I know any of them personally, if the lad really did do wrong by the dog then the breeder should not have sold him another, that I do agree with you on I'd love to know how these young lads have so much spare money to spend they ought to try getting married that will soon put pay to any spare money

 

With regards to myself, all my dogs have a home for life even if they 'failed' to make the grade workwise, as it takes 'two to tango' as the saying goes, I would have to shoulder half the blame at least if the dog failed to do its job, IMHO you take the dog on, it was your choice which one to buy, therefore you owe it a home for life, but that is only my opinion and others will disagree, atvb Richard

Edited May 8, 2009 by arcticgun

[Guest gaz100604]

a well typed out reply but all b@llox if you ask me money talks he wouldnt of got another pup off me thats for sure

 

Your quite possibly right mate only time will tell the fella who sold me my bitch has the right idea, he visits potential buyers homes several times, unannounced, doesn't mind putting the time in getting to know prespective owners, then makes a descision when he is 100% sure they are suitable,this is before the buyer has even seen the pup. He also offers a buy back if things don't work out. I was very impressed with the way he went about things. other breeders I spoke to with a few notable exceptions, where more interested in the money than finding suitable homes.

 

As I tried to make clear in my post I don't know the in's and out's of the situation regarding these lads and there dogs,nor do I know any of them personally, if the lad really did do wrong by the dog then the breeder should not have sold him another, that I do agree with you on I'd love to know how these young lads have so much spare money to spend they ought to try getting married that will soon put pay to any spare money

 

With regards to myself, all my dogs have a home for life even if they 'failed' to make the grade workwise, as it takes 'two to tango' as the saying goes, I would have to shoulder half the blame at least if the dog failed to do its job, IMHO you take the dog on, it was your choice which one to buy, therefore you owe it a home for life, but that is only my opinion and others will disagree, atvb Richard

 

 

well said that mate, what got me is i offered to take that last pup when he was up for sale for 3rd time it was around xmas money was tight, he then got sold and poor dog prob starved to death when it would of been avoided if hed been im my kennels hope this pup doest end up the same way

[arcticgun 4,548]

well said that mate, what got me is i offered to take that last pup when he was up for sale for 3rd time it was around xmas money was tight, he then got sold and poor dog prob starved to death when it would of been avoided if hed been im my kennels hope this pup doest end up the same way

 

 

Me too mate, money should never take priority over the welfare of the animal in question, personaly I would rather give free to a really good home than sell to someone I was unsure of, looking back at old posts it was a really disgusting state of affairs I really hope the lad makes a go of this pup, but on reflection I see where you where coming from with your comments, it's nice to see how much some of the people on this site care about there dogs and animal welfare in general (one in the eye for the anti's lurking), as has been said on here before once the money is spent on a pup it is gone, happy Hunting Gaz, atvb Richard

Edited May 8, 2009 by arcticgun

[bowers1986 3]

i dont no a lot about the owners of thease pups but i no one thing bowers nos how to breed a pup,i think they are crackers and i wish the lads all the luck in the world with them

 

Many thanks mate Im glad you think so,,

 

i have no doubt about his breeding ability but he was told about the pup "sting" hobferret sold and then was sold and resold and then left on fens, wtf would you then sell him another pup maybe he kan come on and tell me

 

I was wondering when this would crop up,, and Ive gotta agree as first look I dont blame you for asking the question. For starters the litter I bred last year "Tobey x Amber" , the bitch didnt actually belong to me, shes owned by a friend who basically lost intrest when the pups were born and failed to even advertise the pups. So worrying these pups would just go to waste I took it on my own back and got buyers for all pups and even traveled to meet the lads.

 

As for Hob_ferrets first pup sting,, he put alot of work into this pup getting it to retrieve etc etc, then he choose to sell him for what ever reason, and to be fair the pup belonged to him which he paid his hard earned money for. So what would I the owner of the stud dog used have to do with that sale aslong as the dog was going to a decent home. A member off the site bought him with a day or so of him been advertised on the site and from what I remember he was promised a good working home and the lad travelled a canny way to get the pup. Then after that Im unsure what actually went wrong,,and he got sold yet again and again. But personally I dont think Hob_ferret was actually to blame for what happend to that dog, He sold the dog in good faith and now he regrets that move,, but we all make mistakes in life,and you have to learn from them.

 

So surley wouldnt the lad who promised this dog a good home when buying him,,,then selling him a week or so later, be to blame for what happend to this dog?

 

 

As for the reason I sold hob_ferret another pup,,, Ive been lamping with this lad on several occasions and no matter what anyone on here says in the time Ive known him I think he's a 100% genuine lad who cares for his dogs. In the time Ive known him hes only ever had the pup in question "Sting" which he sold and his older dog jack, he's not buying and selling dogs weekly as some make out. He will admit openly he made a mistake when he sold sting,which not alot would do, but who am I too hold that against him. Everyone deserves a second chance and I believe he will do right by this pup.

 

As for the comment about me breeding pups just for the ££ Money ££ I couldnt disagree more, If I wanted to just make money out of it Id breed pure breds and with me owning two Kc Saluki bitches that wouldnt be hard to do and Id make alot more per pup than this whole litter sold for.But Like said above Im not in it just for the money. I speak regulary to all the lads who have got one from this litter and the last and I trust them 100%. In my eyes all genuine lads,, and the pups have gone to the right homes in my eyes.

 

 

[Guest Hob__ferret]

Don't know too much about Hob_ferrets last pup, I vaguely remember the pup being for sale, however what happens to the pup after the breeder sells it, is not Bowers fault. I have noticed that Hobf has built some excellent kennels that must of cost a bomb,and his other dog looks well looked after

 

 

cheers mate

 

but to tell ye thr truth mate i messed up big time with my frist pup and jumped in all to qwick and so on

 

but i get the feeling people are trying to say i am a dog peddler and if this was true i am a non money makeing one as i sold my pup for £150 and it cost me £200 as a pup then all the time that went in to it the money that went in to it i could of asked for a daft price like £300 but i dident as i new pup needed a good home that could put abit more time in to it i thort seen as the lad that came for it from stoke would be the right choice as he was comeing a fair way for it but that was a bad choice as it was slod next day for £200 when lad payed £150 for it but he did have to pay for petty money to come get pup so i gess thats ok but still. but at the end of the day i dident no this was going to happen to sting and if i would of new it was going to happen i would of not sold him at all but gaz why tell hpool hunter and bowers what happend to the pup but why not tell me hey i was the one that looked after pup and trained pup ect dont you think i had a right to no what happend to the pup any way i give up with this site in a way as its just full of people slaging each over off

[poacher3161 1,766]

Don't know too much about Hob_ferrets last pup, I vaguely remember the pup being for sale, however what happens to the pup after the breeder sells it, is not Bowers fault. I have noticed that Hobf has built some excellent kennels that must of cost a bomb,and his other dog looks well looked after

 

 

cheers mate

 

but to tell ye thr truth mate i messed up big time with my frist pup and jumped in all to qwick and so on

 

but i get the feeling people are trying to say i am a dog peddler and if this was true i am a non money makeing one as i sold my pup for £150 and it cost me £200 as a pup then all the time that went in to it the money that went in to it i could of asked for a daft price like £300 but i dident as i new pup needed a good home that could put abit more time in to it i thort seen as the lad that came for it from stoke would be the right choice as he was comeing a fair way for it but that was a bad choice as it was slod next day for £200 when lad payed £150 for it but he did have to pay for petty money to come get pup so i gess thats ok but still. but at the end of the day i dident no this was going to happen to sting and if i would of new it was going to happen i would of not sold him at all but gaz why tell hpool hunter and bowers what happend to the pup but why not tell me hey i was the one that looked after pup and trained pup ect dont you think i had a right to no what happend to the pup any way i give up with this site in a way as its just full of people slaging each over off

At least you have had the guts to own up to your well i dont think it wasyour mistake ps how many have bred lurchers then sold them and then heard bad shit about them one way or another.atvb daz

[Fieldsporthunter 1,864]

i dont no a lot about the owners of thease pups but i no one thing bowers nos how to breed a pup,i think they are crackers and i wish the lads all the luck in the world with them

 

Many thanks mate Im glad you think so,,

 

i have no doubt about his breeding ability but he was told about the pup "sting" hobferret sold and then was sold and resold and then left on fens, wtf would you then sell him another pup maybe he kan come on and tell me

 

I was wondering when this would crop up,, and Ive gotta agree as first look I dont blame you for asking the question. For starters the litter I bred last year "Tobey x Amber" , the bitch didnt actually belong to me, shes owned by a friend who basically lost intrest when the pups were born and failed to even advertise the pups. So worrying these pups would just go to waste I took it on my own back and got buyers for all pups and even traveled to meet the lads.

 

As for Hob_ferrets first pup sting,, he put alot of work into this pup getting it to retrieve etc etc, then he choose to sell him for what ever reason, and to be fair the pup belonged to him which he paid his hard earned money for. So what would I the owner of the stud dog used have to do with that sale aslong as the dog was going to a decent home. A member off the site bought him with a day or so of him been advertised on the site and from what I remember he was promised a good working home and the lad travelled a canny way to get the pup. Then after that Im unsure what actually went wrong,,and he got sold yet again and again. But personally I dont think Hob_ferret was actually to blame for what happend to that dog, He sold the dog in good faith and now he regrets that move,, but we all make mistakes in life,and you have to learn from them.

 

So surley wouldnt the lad who promised this dog a good home when buying him,,,then selling him a week or so later, be to blame for what happend to this dog?

 

 

As for the reason I sold hob_ferret another pup,,, Ive been lamping with this lad on several occasions and no matter what anyone on here says in the time Ive known him I think he's a 100% genuine lad who cares for his dogs in the time Ive known him hes only ever had the pup in question "Sting" which he sold and his older dog jack, he's not buying and selling dogs weekly as some make out. He will admit openly he made a mistake when he sold sting,which not alot would do, but who am I too hold that against him. Everyone deserves a second chance and I believe he will do right by this pup.

 

As for the comment about me breeding pups just for the ££ Money ££ I couldnt disagree more, If I wanted to just make money out of it Id breed pure breds and with me owning two Kc Saluki bitches that wouldnt be hard to do and Id make alot more per pup than this whole litter sold for.But Like said above Im not in it just for the money. I speak regulary to all the lads who have got one from this litter and the last and I trust them 100%. In my eyes all genuine lads,, and the pups have gone to the right homes in my eyes.

 

 

 

 

hob_ferret is a crackin young un, not one of theese daft cider warriors. ive got loads of time for him.

[Guest Hob__ferret]

cheers mate good to now your true mates are always there

[arcticgun 4,548]

but to tell ye thr truth mate i messed up big time with my frist pup and jumped in all to qwick and so on

 

At least you have the balls to say that fella not many would, they simply would have logged off here abnd never returned, the sale section is full of dogs that are being sold, so if your a 'bad owner' others need to look at themselves as well. Stick in with your new pup, you are obviously set on doing the best buy it, others opinions are immaterial, prove them all wrong mate, don't leave the site, just keep posting pics of your pup's progress, atb Richard

 

Bower's respect to you mate you have said your piece and IMHO you have nothing to be sorry about,