colliexgrayhound

[SMART DOG 340]

Imo a dog needs to do its growing up on land like that if it has any chance of excelling on that sort of land. Stick a dog on land like that that has only done field work and youll be carrying your dog home. Fortunatley i have land similar to this within 10 minutes walking distance from home. also open fields so im spoiled for any kind of terrain i choose. Coupled with plenty of road work my dogs have good hardy feet. atb stabba

well imo you take a pup on that land you carrying it home but we all have opinions and mine is rough ground is no place for a dog which hasn't matured or grown into his feet

Im afraid you misunderstood me SmartDog. A youngster needs to be introduced to this type of land gradually. Do not for 1 minute think that id cavvort a 6month old pup round this land. It would be introduced steadily ie short walks on lead watching older dogs at work. Only in maturity would it be allowed free reign. I hope i have made myself clear this time. atb stabba.

 

 

use a gun for virmin controll

guns are for quiters lmfao rab a lurcher is a 4x4 of the dog world 2 wheel drive just not good enough

[brookie 1,193]

a good dog should work any land and adapt to any situation and in my opinion once its on terms with its rabbit on the lamp should catch per cent of what its running through out the night and as the majority of rabbits it catches on the lamp are caught on the hedge. a dog that dosnt try on a hedge ie cos its to close or its popped in so he stops to me is no good and if i ever detect the slightest hesitation in a dog when its sighted a rabbit its gone full stop

[Guest RAB.MCKAY]

Imo a dog needs to do its growing up on land like that if it has any chance of excelling on that sort of land. Stick a dog on land like that that has only done field work and youll be carrying your dog home. Fortunatley i have land similar to this within 10 minutes walking distance from home. also open fields so im spoiled for any kind of terrain i choose. Coupled with plenty of road work my dogs have good hardy feet. atb stabba

well imo you take a pup on that land you carrying it home but we all have opinions and mine is rough ground is no place for a dog which hasn't matured or grown into his feet

Im afraid you misunderstood me SmartDog. A youngster needs to be introduced to this type of land gradually. Do not for 1 minute think that id cavvort a 6month old pup round this land. It would be introduced steadily ie short walks on lead watching older dogs at work. Only in maturity would it be allowed free reign. I hope i have made myself clear this time. atb stabba.

 

 

use a gun for virmin controll

guns are for quiters lmfao rab a lurcher is a 4x4 of the dog world 2 wheel drive just not good enough

 

 

lol i no wat yous r saying but seriously that picture of the type of ground yous r talking about . wise up .yous said it was virmin control so use a gun . the main atributes of a lurcher is its ability to catch quarry quickly a dog cant posibly run flat out on that .

[Guest jt750]

a good dog should work any land and adapt to any situation and in my opinion once its on terms with its rabbit on the lamp should catch per cent of what its running through out the night and as the majority of rabbits it catches on the lamp are caught on the hedge. a dog that dosnt try on a hedge ie cos its to close or its popped in so he stops to me is no good and if i ever detect the slightest hesitation in a dog when its sighted a rabbit its gone full stop

 

% catch rate ...i'll have some of that 7 days a week and pay a lot of money for it...agreed lots are caught on/in the hedge ..i think the lads asking about coney sat 3 feet from hedge on a fair slip

[Guest RAB.MCKAY]

a good dog should work any land and adapt to any situation and in my opinion once its on terms with its rabbit on the lamp should catch per cent of what its running through out the night and as the majority of rabbits it catches on the lamp are caught on the hedge. a dog that dosnt try on a hedge ie cos its to close or its popped in so he stops to me is no good and if i ever detect the slightest hesitation in a dog when its sighted a rabbit its gone full stop

 

agree completly

[Guest RAB.MCKAY]

thought i would change this convo boaring me .

hears a few pics of my pups 11 months old wat yous al running.

[brookie 1,193]

a good dog should work any land and adapt to any situation and in my opinion once its on terms with its rabbit on the lamp should catch per cent of what its running through out the night and as the majority of rabbits it catches on the lamp are caught on the hedge. a dog that dosnt try on a hedge ie cos its to close or its popped in so he stops to me is no good and if i ever detect the slightest hesitation in a dog when its sighted a rabbit its gone full stop

 

% catch rate ...i'll have some of that 7 days a week and pay a lot of money for it...agreed lots are caught on/in the hedge ..i think the lads asking about coney sat 3 feet from hedge on a fair slip ive got pups due shortly bred from top lines if your interested and youngsters here 8mths old doing it day and night pm me and dont worry about em being three foot out

[Guest shaneo]

lamping lurchers on light nights is a big cause of lurchers stopping when rabbits get close to cover and in my oppinion when that starts its time to get rid a decent lamper should smash the edge after there quarry and at the end of the night the amount of stuff you take home is gunna be alot more, than you would take home when your out with a quitter atb

[SMART DOG 340]

Imo a dog needs to do its growing up on land like that if it has any chance of excelling on that sort of land. Stick a dog on land like that that has only done field work and youll be carrying your dog home. Fortunatley i have land similar to this within 10 minutes walking distance from home. also open fields so im spoiled for any kind of terrain i choose. Coupled with plenty of road work my dogs have good hardy feet. atb stabba

well imo you take a pup on that land you carrying it home but we all have opinions and mine is rough ground is no place for a dog which hasn't matured or grown into his feet

Im afraid you misunderstood me SmartDog. A youngster needs to be introduced to this type of land gradually. Do not for 1 minute think that id cavvort a 6month old pup round this land. It would be introduced steadily ie short walks on lead watching older dogs at work. Only in maturity would it be allowed free reign. I hope i have made myself clear this time. atb stabba.

 

 

use a gun for virmin controll

guns are for quiters lmfao rab a lurcher is a 4x4 of the dog world 2 wheel drive just not good enough

 

 

lol i no wat yous r saying but seriously that picture of the type of ground yous r talking about . wise up .yous said it was virmin control so use a gun . the main atributes of a lurcher is its ability to catch quarry quickly a dog cant posibly run flat out on that .

RAB a dog has to work all ground weather it rocky/flinty/firm/soft and that pic i put up is just to show you what i expect my dogs to work on it not all as rocky as that but it is still rough ground and my dog take lots of rabbits off that ground and it all down to brain

[SMART DOG 340]

a good dog should work any land and adapt to any situation and in my opinion once its on terms with its rabbit on the lamp should catch per cent of what its running through out the night and as the majority of rabbits it catches on the lamp are caught on the hedge. a dog that dosnt try on a hedge ie cos its to close or its popped in so he stops to me is no good and if i ever detect the slightest hesitation in a dog when its sighted a rabbit its gone full stop

 

agree completly

Rab you say you agree completly yet you say im nuts for running on rough ground

 

Brookie yes i also think a dog behind its quarry should give 110% till the end and i would not expect anything less but i dont like a dog with no running sence ie running rabbits which they have spotted 3 fields away

[Guest sitepatrol]

couple of my mates told me that collie crosses will get too clever when they get older and will stop running stuff thats too far away or in a edge can anyone tell me what they think

 

Yes some collie x wil get more clever as they grow older.I like to see a dog at this stage.Some people will disagree.

[brookie 1,193]

Brookie yes i also think a dog behind its quarry should give 110% till the end and i would not expect anything less but i dont like a dog with no running sence ie running rabbits which they have spotted 3 fields away

i never mentioned anything about slipping three fields away i only lamp the field im in as for running sense that comes from good breeding and plenty of work i think this article which appeared in the edrd a few years ago could contribute to this thread

[Guest RAB.MCKAY]

a good dog should work any land and adapt to any situation and in my opinion once its on terms with its rabbit on the lamp should catch per cent of what its running through out the night and as the majority of rabbits it catches on the lamp are caught on the hedge. a dog that dosnt try on a hedge ie cos its to close or its popped in so he stops to me is no good and if i ever detect the slightest hesitation in a dog when its sighted a rabbit its gone full stop

 

agree completly

Rab you say you agree completly yet you say im nuts for running on rough ground

 

Brookie yes i also think a dog behind its quarry should give 110% till the end and i would not expect anything less but i dont like a dog with no running sence ie running rabbits which they have spotted 3 fields away

 

i agreed with that statement

[shepp 2,285]

With all the barbed wire in my area i think a dog which ploughed through it and into the cover would spend more time out injured than actually fit for working.

My first cross collie grey bitch gets herself into good positions by running tight to the edges of the field. I can also direct her by pointing in appropriate directions if i see rabbits that she does'nt and she keeps an eye on me untill she finds it.

Can other crosses do this?

Shepp

[Guest RAB.MCKAY]

Im sorry mate. Most of my replies have been on lamping. Day time work is a totally different kettle of fish. You are correct in that a dog needs to be steady and level headed to work day time bunnies. although on land such as yours a dog would soon learn to steady down or quiet simply end up crippled or worse. ive worked my bitches in places like that and they soon adapt to there surroundings. they are no less keen but set about there work with a bit more stealth should we say. I and my girls take work where we can find it and for bullxes they shine at everything i have thrown at them. Except ferrets lol.atb stabba

Run a bull cross on this land then tell me how much your vet bills are

 

 

and thats nothing against bull crosses as i believe it horses for coarses but this land aint for a bully

 

 

your fking nuts you shouldnt run a dog ther

 

Why not ? Dog knows its job and land ....Land like that needs some brains

 

brains from the owner