colliexgrayhound

[bigkiel 7]

couple of my mates told me that collie crosses will get too clever when they get older and will stop running stuff thats too far away or in a edge can anyone tell me what they think

[Guest jt750]

From my old records from the dog in my avatar as he got older 5-6 his kill total went down but his catch to run ratio went up for example when he was 3 he run 40 rabbits and caught 12 when he was 5 he would run 30 and and catch 10 ..he did what you said not run those tight in to hedges/fences and those at the end of the beam lkike he did when he was younger.It didn't bother me and he was certainly no jacker

[Guest fence_hopper]

couple of my mates told me that collie crosses will get too clever when they get older and will stop running stuff thats too far away or in a edge can anyone tell me what they think

 

 

went out today with 2 hancocks, not my thing over rated in my eyes 1 was descent. each to there own tho. never liked a dog with to much brains half of them outsmart there owners to much hard work with them

[Guest shaneo]

i had collie wippet greyhound bout 6 years ago i had it since it was 5 when it was bout 8 it stoped running rabbits close to edges and if it was on a run when the rabbit got close to cover it would stop but ime not shaw if its just in collie crosses.

[bigkiel 7]

cheers lads ive got a hancock bitch 2 years old doing relly well 4 me at the moment but just got a bit worried when mi pal said that

[rabbit tourmentor 29]

ive heard they put the brakes on to early is this true with 3/4 bred dogs and half crosses????

[Trigger 26]

I think it depends on the amount of work the dog has, i have seen alot of other crosses do the same thing if they are being worked hard most nights the week. a dog that goes out a couple of times a week doesnt usally do it,

[GILES 2]

couple of my mates told me that collie crosses will get too clever when they get older and will stop running stuff thats too far away or in a edge can anyone tell me what they think

 

i got one at 11 the now and never let me down on all quarry day & night so tell you mates to do there homework atb

 

keano

I GOT A 15 YEAR OLD HANCOCK DOG HAD HIM SINCE HE WAS 18 MONTHS AND HE'S THE SAME,HE WOULD STILL GO NOW IF I LET HIM

[stabba 10,745]

i had collie wippet greyhound bout 6 years ago i had it since it was 5 when it was bout 8 it stoped running rabbits close to edges and if it was on a run when the rabbit got close to cover it would stop but ime not shaw if its just in collie crosses.

 

it,s the dog useing it head all lurcher x will do the same thing not just collie x bub atb

 

keano

Wrong wrong wrong keano. all lurcherx dont pull up. ive got 2 bitches here that will try thier hearts out no matter what the quarry and no matter how far away it is. imo its usually the "too bright for its own good" collie x that does this. Ive owned them and got rid of them. any dog that pulls up is of no use to me. atb stabba

[stabba 10,745]

ok then keano. how many times have your dogs caught tackle what you thought they should never have caught. My dogs do this regular. if i had a colliex that thought "oh fcuk that its too far away, or in the hedge bottom" i know for a fact that my end of the nite tally would be a damn site lighter. I do not wish injurys on my dogs either through stupidness on my part or through sheer tenacity on there part. my dogs are run and run hard. if they were injury prone or not up to the job in hand then quiet simply they wouldnt be in my kennels. atb stabba

[Trigger 26]

ok then keano. how many times have your dogs caught tackle what you thought they should never have caught. My dogs do this regular. if i had a colliex that thought "oh fcuk that its too far away, or in the hedge bottom" i know for a fact that my end of the nite tally would be a damn site lighter. I do not wish injurys on my dogs either through stupidness on my part or through sheer tenacity on there part. my dogs are run and run hard. if they were injury prone or not up to the job in hand then quiet simply they wouldnt be in my kennels. atb stabba

Thats a fare point. But on the other hand how many times has you dog missed tackle you thought they should of caught, and what percentage of tackle does a dog catch that is to far away or at the bottom of the hedge more often than not i would say more escape than those that dont. dont you think it is disheartning for a dog to run alot of tackle he has got less chance of catching.

[stabba 10,745]

Fair point Trigger. I never said my dogs dont miss. Nor did i say they caught everything they shouldnt have. My point being a dog that refuses to run quarry fullstop has not got a place with me. The original question was about pulling up or refusing to run. For example. My friend and i were out doing a spot of rabbiting. It was his slip. His colliex refused to run because the rabbit was too near the hedge. I slipped instead with my non collie blooded bitch which mopped the rabbit up. This happened 3 times that night. All 3 rabbits were taken by my "non oulling up bitch". Point proved i think. atb stabba

[poacher3161 1,766]

I think a lot depends on how mutch stuff you are getting to run in a night round her a doer will always outdo a thinker.atvb

[frost 4]

The question was he had heard that collie x's start to pick their runs and pull up as they get older and the answer i would have given would be that Some may for whatever reason too much work or too many misses but this is not confined solely to collie x's all breeds will do this in the same circumstances.

I work collie x's and one of them has hurt himself often by following rabbits into cover or striking near hedges and i have a hancock bred bitch which would run through a brick wall to get a rabbit so in MY humble opinion to generalise coolie x's in this way is nonsense.

[stabba 10,745]

Personally for me if a dog pulls up, or refuses to run just doesnt want it. providing its not injured or just too plain tired. For some reason the vast majority of dogs that do this are collie blooded animals. Too bright for there own good? Who knows.Still king of the allrounders though imo. atb stabba.