danebrewer10 6 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Hi all, mission of mercy to lay my mind to rest... or turn me into a quivering werck... I was out yesterday lamping and got back to clean my rifle, I have made do so far untill I can go and pick up a new cleaning rod (the one they gave me doesn't fit the brushes) and sling, with a pull through made from 50lb fishing line, works fine as it gives quite a good fit with a whole patch. anyways, I went down with 2 solvent patches and then with a dry patch, but the patch got stuck in i think the area where the case narrows at the neck as it wasn't lubricated, so I got the oversize cleaning rod (which snugly fits down the bore), cut off the pull through, and pushed the patch out from the muzzle end out of the chamber. thing is it was pretty well stuck and i had to (sounds horrible) ram the patch out, y'know as if you were using a hammer and the patch is the nail and the rod the hammer. the patch came out, but i was wondering, might I have damaged the rifling or scratched the bore and if so what can I do about it? I haven't had time to shoot another group so that'll have to wait.... answers on a postcard to.... :( also what do you guys do with cleaning your HMR's? have any of you found a parch that fits down the bore whole? without having to cut it down to fit in the jag? Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 ye it will be ok youve learnt your lesson!! Quote Link to post
patchworkcrew 0 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Get some 2X4 and you'll soon work out how much you have to tear off. Bob G Quote Link to post
BRYAN3 29 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Hi. I use a Boresnake. It seems to do a good job, but I think I will get a propper rod and solvent when I can get of my butt. Trouble is that with 24" barrel plus moddy and not many people stock extra long rods. The boresnake is like a shoe lace and almost cuts my hand like a cheese wire. ATB-Bryan. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Hi. I use a Boresnake. It seems to do a good job, but I think I will get a propper rod and solvent when I can get of my butt. Trouble is that with 24" barrel plus moddy and not many people stock extra long rods. The boresnake is like a shoe lace and almost cuts my hand like a cheese wire. ATB-Bryan. Bryan3....I think anyone who has been around this site a while is well aware of my view on boresnakes...but if there is any doubt...... Boresnakes were originally developed for a quick clean of SHOTGUNS in the field until the job could be done properly....the marketing people have done a brilliant job on them and for some reason a large part of the world now thinks they are God's gift and all you need for any calibre.......WRONG!!!! ....and take the Mod off before you clean the bore!! Quote Link to post
BRYAN3 29 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Hi. I use a Boresnake. It seems to do a good job, but I think I will get a propper rod and solvent when I can get of my butt. Trouble is that with 24" barrel plus moddy and not many people stock extra long rods. The boresnake is like a shoe lace and almost cuts my hand like a cheese wire. ATB-Bryan. Bryan3....I think anyone who has been around this site a while is well aware of my view on boresnakes...but if there is any doubt...... Boresnakes were originally developed for a quick clean of SHOTGUNS in the field until the job could be done properly....the marketing people have done a brilliant job on them and for some reason a large part of the world now thinks they are God's gift and all you need for any calibre.......WRONG!!!! ....and take the Mod off before you clean the bore!! Hi Deker. I agree with you regarding Boresnakes. I tried to obtain a bore saver, but they sent me one intended for .17 c/f. I will get the propper gear when I get round to it. However I am too lazy to bother to remove moddy every time, especialy as they are only £34.00 to replace. atb-bryan. Quote Link to post
danebrewer10 6 Posted May 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 (edited) Hi all cheers for the replies! phew!!! BRYAN3- it's not just the effort to take it off, but here's a story I was told by a stalker friend of mine the other day, this was with a centerfire but the sentiment is the same. A guy was going to trade in his rifle for a new one and using the old moderator and scope he had. HOWEVER he had never taken the moderator off the rifle! the moderator (T8) was rusted on!! the gun smith after dismantling the mod had to actually cut the last 1/2 inch off the barrel to get the moderator off, and the barrel under the mod was all pitted, I now take the mod off and store it separately (I also clean the mod each time as well with soapy water and let it dry in the sun. in the end he couldn't buy his new rifle, messed up his moderator so had to buy a new mod and have the rifle re-barreled! Watch out! :thumbs: also mega happy today as I managed to secure some more rabbit shooting! also the patch seems to need some sort of lubrication for it to be able to fit past the neck without being cut down, then it's fine Edited May 2, 2009 by danebrewer10 Quote Link to post
BRYAN3 29 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 Hi Danebrewer. I agree with you entirely and will sort out the rods etc. It is only the fact that my rifle is still quite new and stainless that stops me pannicking. I will get it sorted as I have more than £600 invested in the rifle plus £900 on the scope. The moddy was however a cheap SAK. ATB-Bryan. Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted May 2, 2009 Report Share Posted May 2, 2009 You can buy patches for the .17 , so as they are a snug fit, As with dekers response, a boresnake is a quick fix solution to cleaning, not gods miracle gift... Now no one can say if you done damage or not but you should notice no real difference, Just take care when cleaning next time.... I hope all is ok.. snap. Quote Link to post
Rentomski 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 [boresnakes were originally developed for a quick clean of SHOTGUNS in the field until the job could be done properly....the marketing people have done a brilliant job on them and for some reason a large part of the world now thinks they are God's gift and all you need for any calibre.......WRONG!!!! Very true! Went to a Deer Commission best practice day last October. A very interesting talk from a riflesmith. "How many of you use boresnakes?" he asked. About 3/4 of those present indicated that they used the things. "I get a lot of work because of them" he replied. Then he handed round a rifle barrel with what was left of a boresnake wedged in place and impossible to remove. Great for shotguns and smoothbores as he said, but a little too much carbon fouling in a rifle, then try to clean it with a boresnake and one could be looking for a new barrel.... Worrying, but not as bad as the remains of a 25-06 rifle, that someone had fired a .308 through it! The bullet did exit the barrel, but the barrel followed it down range. Receiver smashed, bolt ripped out and atomised brass all over the place; the user suffered nothing more than a cut hand as the forend broke when the barrel decided to follow the bullet. Quote Link to post
spanj 11 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi all, mission of mercy to lay my mind to rest... or turn me into a quivering werck... I was out yesterday lamping and got back to clean my rifle, I have made do so far untill I can go and pick up a new cleaning rod (the one they gave me doesn't fit the brushes) and sling, with a pull through made from 50lb fishing line, works fine as it gives quite a good fit with a whole patch. anyways, I went down with 2 solvent patches and then with a dry patch, but the patch got stuck in i think the area where the case narrows at the neck as it wasn't lubricated, so I got the oversize cleaning rod (which snugly fits down the bore), cut off the pull through, and pushed the patch out from the muzzle end out of the chamber. thing is it was pretty well stuck and i had to (sounds horrible) ram the patch out, y'know as if you were using a hammer and the patch is the nail and the rod the hammer. the patch came out, but i was wondering, might I have damaged the rifling or scratched the bore and if so what can I do about it? I haven't had time to shoot another group so that'll have to wait.... answers on a postcard to.... :( also what do you guys do with cleaning your HMR's? have any of you found a parch that fits down the bore whole? without having to cut it down to fit in the jag? Rimfire Magic (in sheffield) do a good cleaning rod for .17hmr Quote Link to post
jamie g 17 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi. I use a Boresnake. It seems to do a good job, but I think I will get a propper rod and solvent when I can get of my butt. Trouble is that with 24" barrel plus moddy and not many people stock extra long rods. The boresnake is like a shoe lace and almost cuts my hand like a cheese wire. ATB-Bryan. Bryan3....I think anyone who has been around this site a while is well aware of my view on boresnakes...but if there is any doubt...... Boresnakes were originally developed for a quick clean of SHOTGUNS in the field until the job could be done properly....the marketing people have done a brilliant job on them and for some reason a large part of the world now thinks they are God's gift and all you need for any calibre.......WRONG!!!! ....and take the Mod off before you clean the bore!! Hi Deker. I agree with you regarding Boresnakes. I tried to obtain a bore saver, but they sent me one intended for .17 c/f. I will get the propper gear when I get round to it. However I am too lazy to bother to remove moddy every time, especialy as they are only £34.00 to replace. atb-bryan. dont mean to have a pop at you mate but it take a couple of seconds to take a mod off. you spent all that money on a rifle and you have to keep it in good condition. trouble is if the mod does mess up by law it isnt as easy as you think to swap it. you have to send in your ticket to do the swap. as for the rods get one from reloading in oxford. the dewey rods there are long i have the 33 inch one as my barrel on my 22/250 is 26 inchs so need the extra length. when you use a bore guide to that makes abit of length. so make sure the rod you get is the right size Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 One thing that I'd add on the Mod front. If you don't take it off, the corrosive waste inside the moderator can do untold damage to the crown of the rifle. It can easily create pits in the crown which leads to an inaccurate rifle. Not good! Especially when you have spent that sort of Money on one. Re-crowning the rifle will probably cost you more and cause more aggro than taking the mod off Good luck Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 Hi all, mission of mercy to lay my mind to rest... or turn me into a quivering werck... I was out yesterday lamping and got back to clean my rifle, I have made do so far untill I can go and pick up a new cleaning rod (the one they gave me doesn't fit the brushes) and sling, with a pull through made from 50lb fishing line, works fine as it gives quite a good fit with a whole patch. anyways, I went down with 2 solvent patches and then with a dry patch, but the patch got stuck in i think the area where the case narrows at the neck as it wasn't lubricated, so I got the oversize cleaning rod (which snugly fits down the bore), cut off the pull through, and pushed the patch out from the muzzle end out of the chamber. thing is it was pretty well stuck and i had to (sounds horrible) ram the patch out, y'know as if you were using a hammer and the patch is the nail and the rod the hammer. the patch came out, but i was wondering, might I have damaged the rifling or scratched the bore and if so what can I do about it? I haven't had time to shoot another group so that'll have to wait.... answers on a postcard to.... :( also what do you guys do with cleaning your HMR's? have any of you found a parch that fits down the bore whole? without having to cut it down to fit in the jag? Rimfire Magic (in sheffield) do a good cleaning rod for .17hmr the rod you are thinking of is a dewey i would say and they are excellent.............. Quote Link to post
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