a good night ends in disaster

[Kane 2]

at the end of the day its up to the owner of the dog what he or she does with there dogs i dont really care what people do its up them but whats the point in giving someone shit for doing what they want to do all the best to everyone what ever they want to do

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The point is this,I would not want some one who doesnt know better to take a young lurcher out tonight in the bad running conditions we have at the moment and ruin their pup/dog.

Your right its none of my buisness what woodga or anybody else does with their dogs,but it is more than a coincidence that it is now in june that his lurcher has picked up an injury.I was taught one way to do thing I am only passing that opinion on .I have no power(and I wouldnt want it)over anybody elses opinions or dogs Ime just giving mine.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

I think I read the thread right in that it was a muscle injury Woodga.Anything muscular benefits from being kept cool .If you are able ,run the hose down the leg as often as time allows but DO NOT walk the dog until all swelling has gone .

Ps- I run my lurcher on a few this time of year too .

Someone mentioned heatpads but these are generally for shock.Good luck .

[Kane 2]

I think that you are in the South East Kane......would you consider the ground to be soft enough after the rain of the past couple of days?

I personally would not run on clay at the moment, but would consider grass that is firm but with a touch of bounce (if you get my meaning)

Thats if I felt like running the dog!

Genuine question fella

JOEB

 

My back garden is clay its rock hard I wouldnt run a dog on conditions like that.

There is a golf course a short walk from my house it is well watered nice and green even thats borderline.It is up to you mate ,me I would watch the foot ball.

Just another point I would say my dogs get run very hard during the winter lamping a lot aswell as out daytime with the terriers.So i think that a rest during the summer months would not be to much to ask.

[Guest JOEB]

I think that you are in the South East Kane......would you consider the ground to be soft enough after the rain of the past couple of days?

I personally would not run on clay at the moment, but would consider grass that is firm but with a touch of bounce (if you get my meaning)

Thats if I felt like running the dog!

Genuine question fella

JOEB

 

My back garden is clay its rock hard I wouldnt run a dog on conditions like that.

There is a golf course a short walk from my house it is well watered nice and green even thats borderline.It is up to you mate ,me I would watch the foot ball.

Just another point I would say my dogs get run very hard during the winter lamping a lot aswell as out daytime with the terriers.So i think that a rest during the summer months would not be to much to ask.

 

Sensable awnser KANE just thought some may find it intresting.

JOEB

[Guest MOLLY]

The point is this,I would not want some one who doesnt know better to take a young lurcher out tonight in the bad running conditions we have at the moment and ruin their pup/dog.

At risk of sounding like the Kane appretiation society I too tend to upset people by saying things i want inexperienced people to know. Last season i commented on a thread about a novice lurcher going out for its 1st nights lamping. It was not to have a go at the person posting, it was to point out that imo it was a bad idea to take a dog out when young, because not all novices or youngsters on here know the difference between developmental times of different breeds, and the injuries dogs can sustain just because they couldnt wait another 2-3mths. I was absolutely slated for this post, not imo because i was wrong, but because they thought the post was aimed at the original poster, and all gathered around to defend the person. And how do i know it was not because i was wrong...another thread by a different person saying the same thing as i had in another section everyone was agreeing, and someone else with a litter mate was saying how they were holding the dog back because it was too young to work yet. So yes i do think people have rounded on Kane in this thread, not for what he has said (he could have worded it better ) but because of who he said it to and because it is a touchy subject when someones dog is injured.

I do the same with rat baiting, i know it gets up peoples noses but i dont care...baiting is illegal so i say it is, otherwise how will the youngsters know...i doubt very much they have studied the law regarding the subject.

If we all agreed with each other and kept our mouths shut when we believe something is wrong (as alot of people on here do) how would we ever learn right from wrong or better ways of doing things?

MOLL.

[Guest alastair]

I agree with Kane, the summer is not for running dogs, even a normal walk around the fields here through the day has them panting and dragging their feet.

BUT....here in the north the evenings are still very cool, with cold winds, i have had to light my fire most nights and just 50miles further south, people i know cant sleep for the heat?

MOLL.

 

yep same in kent,swelting heat even at night,ground mostly clay so needs lots of rain to soften it up and fairly long grass my pups hurt its leg charging threw it while walking it.took pup 9 months on golf course last night just to get it used to looking down the beam and we had heavy rain allday and night so the ground was purfect but in just cut silage field it was like concrete,ive had problems in winter with frozen ground we entered a field and walked along woodland edge then slipped dogs on a far away fox,when they came back the had cut pads ,it was nt until we walked out of the shaded ground that we realized that it was ice in the middle.im newish to lurchers so am learning all the time and personally prefer to wait until sep to do proper running.

[lampdog 0]

best wishes mate

[Guest markbrick1]

glad to hear your dog is on the mend mate you did the right thing all the way accidents happen all year round and you will always get peolpe slatin you . to wey to dry ground to hard ground to soft, nobody knows the conditions like you good luck with u dog mark

[towzer 3]

pleased to hear spice is gonna be ok woodga an kane have you ever been out lamping on woodgas permission well i have an i know for a fact if the conditions werent safe he wouldnt run the dog!

[hairybull 3]

You guys would never run your dogs if you were in Oz, the ground is always hard and the weather always hot, the only injuries we normally have is the dogs wearing down their pads because of the hard ground. And yes I run stags and greyhoundXs.

Sorry about your dog mate hope it recovers well and keep hunting!!

[Guest midnight_runner]

WELL JUST GOT BACK FROM THE VETS AND I HAVE GOT THE BITCH BACK HEAVILY SEDATED NO BROKEN BONES SHE HAS TORN THE MUSCLE ON HER SHOULDER BUT THE VET SAYS WITH REST SHE WILL BE OK TIME TO SPOIL THIS LITTLE BITCH NOW I HAVE CARPROFEN TABLETS FOR HER AND HAVE TO TAKE HER BACK IN ONE WEEKS TIME THANK EVERONE WHO WAS CONCERNED GOOD HUNTING ALL WOODGA :ph34r:

grate news mate chuffed for you

[LDR 29]

You guys would never run your dogs if you were in Oz, the ground is always hard and the weather always hot, the only injuries we normally have is the dogs wearing down their pads because of the hard ground. And yes I run stags and greyhoundXs.

Sorry about your dog mate hope it recovers well and keep hunting!!

 

Was just thinking the same, about how dogs do in places like yours, i must admit i often wince when they put something up whilst out walking at this time of year, but they do say " He who dares"......

[Guest rabbiter]

We are right in the middle of winter here ,and just came inside after wearing my gumboots out to the dog kennels ....bamn mud ,mud and more mud ,grounds as soft as hell as well as wet ,even during the summer while it gets hot here the ground never gets rock hard .But you know too softer ground has its dangers too as the dog can lose its footing, spin out and crash perhapes breaking a limb or even smash into something hard doing alot of damage .

[Kane 2]

Australia and UK no comparison.Totaly different climate soil types and styles of hunting.But more than this are autumn and winter are long cool dark and wet,basicaly we have plenty of autumn/winter months to be running our dogs in the hazards are plentifull enough in these seasons without running them in summer.

[wunwin 0]

Was going to take the dogs to a simmo event today, but its way too hot, the ground is way too hard, and they wont damage feet and legs in the kennel.