derbylad 1 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Bit off subdject[which is ridicilouse anyway] you'll find if you can reek fox on an earth there will never hardly be a fox in it,the more i read on here the more i realise hardly anyone is the genuine article. why is it ridiculous ? plenty of times guys on here say put the dog to ground,thought it was worth knowing whats down there befor you do Quote Link to post
BenBhoy 4,706 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Bit off subdject[which is ridicilouse anyway] you'll find if you can reek fox on an earth there will never hardly be a fox in it,the more i read on here the more i realise hardly anyone is the genuine article. everyone has to start at the beginning though mate, and only way of learning is by getting advice from others, i think it;s important on a forum like this that those with more experience give their advice when others ask for it. Quote Link to post
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) claw marks, foot prints, stinks diffrently, loads of kick back(soil) around the entrance.....but remember foxes can inhabit old badger sets they can also sometimes live together so be careful...good luck with it edited to say ive learned from gamekeepers, before hand i wouldnt have had a clue...you got to start somewere dont you? Edited April 30, 2009 by JPTfellterrier Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 claw marks, foot prints, stinks diffrently, loads of kick back(soil) around the entrance.....but remember foxes can inhabit old badger sets they can also sometimes live together so be careful...good luck with it edited to say ive learned from gamekeepers, before hand i wouldnt have had a clue...you got to start somewere dont you? you av learned from gamekeepers you will av learned feck all then good terriermen arnt gamekeepers Quote Link to post
digger63 3 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Im not trying to be contraversial or a smart arse,im willing to share knowledge with less experianced hunters,ive had good advice myself,but honestly if you cant get something as basic as "is it a badger earth or fox earth" you are nowhere near ready to put a dog to ground period, As my good mate poacher 3161 says if you listen to the vast majority of keepers[not all] you wont learn f..k all worth knowing,add most hunt terrier men to that list as well, brave statement but i wouldn't say anything i couldn't back up,trust me on that one. Quote Link to post
sam3009 4 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Im not trying to be contraversial or a smart arse,im willing to share knowledge with less experianced hunters,ive had good advice myself,but honestly if you cant get something as basic as "is it a badger earth or fox earth" you are nowhere near ready to put a dog to ground period, As my good mate poacher 3161 says if you listen to the vast majority of keepers[not all] you wont learn f..k all worth knowing,add most hunt terrier men to that list as well, brave statement but i wouldn't say anything i couldn't back up,trust me on that one. ditto Quote Link to post
Guest MickyB Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) The difference between a fox and a badger earth is 6 months at Her Majesty's Pleasure... well said RH Theres some bad posts on this thread, i never knew how daft some folk were... I agree with part of what digger63 says, and that is if you dont know the difference, you really shouldnt be working terriers! Edited April 30, 2009 by MickyB Quote Link to post
swagboy 9 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Bit off subdject[which is ridicilouse anyway] you'll find if you can reek fox on an earth there will never hardly be a fox in it,the more i read on here the more i realise hardly anyone is the genuine article. licke it this is y i'm nether on hir Quote Link to post
swagboy 9 Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 if i was u stick to whot u no till u can tell the difrens ethan if its just smocking the odd rat out and get out with sum one how is a bit mor exserens than u'r south (sorry for the spelling check brock) Quote Link to post
Guest jt750 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Feck me i need a translator ..... Quote Link to post
Guest MickyB Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Foxes usually have bones outside the holes badger setts usually have a large spoil heaps outside the setts from where they've been tunneling and dragging clean bedding in . Foxes usually smell pretty badly and the area around the entrances smell. Badgers will dig a midden for them to use close to the entrance. I've seen fox badger and rabbit all live in the same sett ...One close to me often has cubs in this time of year and badger has kitts in the same sett ..grumbling respect no doubt. After '73 a lot of terrier men gave up because of the badger population explosion and them living in close quarters Feck me i need a translator ..... you know what hes saying, and i reckon he talks more sense than you Quote Link to post
Guest jt750 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Foxes usually have bones outside the holes badger setts usually have a large spoil heaps outside the setts from where they've been tunneling and dragging clean bedding in . Foxes usually smell pretty badly and the area around the entrances smell. Badgers will dig a midden for them to use close to the entrance. I've seen fox badger and rabbit all live in the same sett ...One close to me often has cubs in this time of year and badger has kitts in the same sett ..grumbling respect no doubt. After '73 a lot of terrier men gave up because of the badger population explosion and them living in close quarters Feck me i need a translator ..... you know what hes saying, and i reckon he talks more sense than you So long as you know its all that matters then ..... Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Bigger feckin animal bigger feckin hole how hard is that. atvb Quote Link to post
mouse 282 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 Im not trying to be contraversial or a smart arse,im willing to share knowledge with less experianced hunters,ive had good advice myself,but honestly if you cant get something as basic as "is it a badger earth or fox earth" you are nowhere near ready to put a dog to ground period, As my good mate poacher 3161 says if you listen to the vast majority of keepers[not all] you wont learn f..k all worth knowing,add most hunt terrier men to that list as well, brave statement but i wouldn't say anything i couldn't back up,trust me on that one. you must have some shite hunt terriermen up your way because around here the terriermen are all spot on lads who dig 5/6 days a week.im good mates with lads from 4 local packs and dig with all of them.on the other hand if you cannot tell a pig set from an earth then you have a long way to go.cheers mouse. Quote Link to post
wink hound 0 Posted May 1, 2009 Report Share Posted May 1, 2009 (edited) the fact someone asks the question, although stupid (Asin they really should be out with somoen who knows the crack first), is only secoundary to some of the idiot replies from people who have clearly done feck all in the way of terrierwork. my advice would be to find some boys that are doing abit, lend a hand and learn from them, you will learn very little throught text or type. if you cant manage that, do your home work, go out on your own, sit above some places all summer just watching and learning, teach yourself the signs, you never know you may find something others have missed, you will soon get to know what uses where and the behavior patterns of your quarry, then you shall be ready for next season to go quetly at it and be safe in the knowledge you have done your upmost to keep yoursefl legal. Edited May 1, 2009 by wink hound Quote Link to post
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