Beardie half cross

[Jack Dark 2]

I had a ¼ Beardie/Border ¾ greyhound and hunted with him until his retirement. He would have a go at almost anything, day time rabbits, lamping, ferreting and even bushing and retrieving pheasants, but I often felt his size at 27†was a little too tall for my liking.

I knew my next lurcher was going to be a Collie cross and after reading quite a lot on this and other forums I have decided on the Beardie half cross.

I will be getting a Beardie half cross in the nearest future and was wondering if anyone has any tips/insights about training / working this particular cross.

[Fieldsporthunter 1,864]

I had a ¼ Beardie/Border ¾ greyhound and hunted with him until his retirement. He would have a go at almost anything, day time rabbits, lamping, ferreting and even bushing and retrieving pheasants, but I often felt his size at 27†was a little too tall for my liking.

I knew my next lurcher was going to be a Collie cross and after reading quite a lot on this and other forums I have decided on the Beardie half cross.

I will be getting a Beardie half cross in the nearest future and was wondering if anyone has any tips/insights about training / working this particular cross.

 

 

good luck on finding a half decent bred dog of this cross ive already tried and would rather look for rocky horse shit.

 

if you trained a 3/4 bred you wont have a problem training a half cross. good luck ATB

[Neal 1,857]

From my experience of owning a beardie/greyhound first cross I'd say that one of the main points is to allow it to use its intelligence for your mutual benefit rather than dominating it into 100% obedience. I had mine about eighteen years ago though so the line yours is from may have a completely different temperament.

[CI HIR 13]

A lad I know has one and got it from Hancocks.The lad has had lurchers all his life and really rates his beardie x greyhound as a superb rabbiting dog and a very intelligent hunter.He uses it mainly for lamping and ferreting.He did tell me that he was too slow for long ears though.The 1st x beardie/greyhound has a very good coat also.

[matty73 4]

the main thing that puts me off the beardie collie crosses is the lack of working lines of this pastoral breed as it became unpopular as a working dog, and the show fraternity doing what they do best, which is to render working breeds almost useless, but thats another thread all in itself. theres a fair few people breeding this cross but there cant be that many proper working beardies around to use so common sense tells you they must be using show or below average standard beardies that have no working background which is not going to produce a good lurcher imo .but would be interested to hear from people who have this cross where the beardie side of breeding came from apart from the mass producing legend that is. dont get upset anyone its not a dig just a genuine question

[Neal 1,857]

Matty, mine was from the kennels you're referring to. Her sire was Hancock's first beardie, Remus. I really liked Remus' character when I met him all those years ago and also that of Fiona, though I can't remember if she was his sister or daughter. As I said before, I gather the line he uses now is different but I'm not certain. If my memory serves me well, Remus (and Fiona too) were not typical beardies in appearance as they were quite small and looked more "mongrelly" for want of a better word.

[Jack Dark 2]

Matty, mine was from the kennels you're referring to. Her sire was Hancock's first beardie, Remus. I really liked Remus' character when I met him all those years ago and also that of Fiona, though I can't remember if she was his sister or daughter. As I said before, I gather the line he uses now is different but I'm not certain. If my memory serves me well, Remus (and Fiona too) were not typical beardies in appearance as they were quite small and looked more "mongrelly" for want of a better word.

 

The pup I will be getting is from Hector from what I have heard so far he appears to be siring pretty level biddable pups that aren’t too hard headed. Maybe there are folks here with dogs or bitches sired by him, would be interested to know how they have found them.

Did Remus look different to Hector, other than one dog normally look different from another within the same breed.

 

[matty73 4]

ive nothing against hancock it wasnt a sarcastic comment when i said legend because he truly is that and more but cant help thinking that its more quantity than quality if it werent for the name would he sell as many dogs

[Jack Dark 2]

ive nothing against hancock it wasnt a sarcastic comment when i said legend because he truly is that and more but cant help thinking that its more quantity than quality if it werent for the name would he sell as many dogs

 

I suspect that at least one reason that he sells as many dogs as he does is that at least you know what the dog you buy will grow into, when I went to pick up my last dog he pointed at one of the adult dogs running about and said he will turn out like him, and so he did.

About nine months later I was at a lurcher show and got chatting to this bloke about his dog. He told me how we had gone and seen the bitch and she looked bright and fine and was then shown a photograph of what was said to be the sire, also a fine looking dog. The problem was that the puppy that he bought had turned into the dog now at his side, which looked like broken coated lurcher but with big ears and legs that were far too short.

[pritch 335]

ive nothing against hancock it wasnt a sarcastic comment when i said legend because he truly is that and more but cant help thinking that its more quantity than quality if it werent for the name would he sell as many dogs

 

I suspect that at least one reason that he sells as many dogs as he does is that at least you know what the dog you buy will grow into, when I went to pick up my last dog he pointed at one of the adult dogs running about and said he will turn out like him, and so he did.

About nine months later I was at a lurcher show and got chatting to this bloke about his dog. He told me how we had gone and seen the bitch and she looked bright and fine and was then shown a photograph of what was said to be the sire, also a fine looking dog. The problem was that the puppy that he bought had turned into the dog now at his side, which looked like broken coated lurcher but with big ears and legs that were far too short.

that can happen in any half x of any breed they can't all throw to the greyhound physically

& collie mentally some have to be the other way round it's called wastage & hancock

will breed his share just the same as any 1 else. ATB Pritch

[shotup 9]

the only thing i dont like about a beardie cross and one of my best dogs was a beardie border was the amount of hair, i think the coats to thick for our climate look at any photo of a beardie cross and its tongue is allways down to its knees.even on the coldest nights lamping the dog would suffer from heat exustion. a border collie has a better coat.

[poacher3161 1,766]

A good freind of mine has purchased this cross of d.hancock and after both being trained and enterd properly both for no apperent reason [bANNED TEXT] they wer about 3 years old started yapping in the lamp also their recovery [bANNED TEXT] having a run was quite slow due to the thick coat and skin this cross tends to have they didnt fare to well [bANNED TEXT] lamping in september and october [bANNED TEXT] it can still be mild.atvb

[Stabs 3]

Beardie blooded lurcher who was bred for the cold uplands and ferreting.

 

 

Her double jacket was a godsend in those conditions. One shake and she was dry again.

This bitch used to jump on frozen ponds to crack the ice so that she could sit in the icy water below.

 

Same bitch in Australia, running regularly in much higher temperatures than in the UK and not one problem with her jacket.

 

[Bosun11 537]

Good to see her doing well 'down under' Stabs.

 

Seen a few Beardie crosses 'go' and rated all of 'em.

 

The best write up on a Beardie came in early EDRD's from Marc H. Glenn, I was glued to the stuff on his pup's progress and then it all fell silent... Shame!

[allgame 0]

hows those dogs of yours going anyway stabs