Shooter08 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Regarding them posts a few week back, i want to know if it is legal? some people said it was, some people said it wasnt, now, the neighbor behind me is a complete :wankerzo4:, he reported me the other day and i had the police round yesterday, i was just emptying my gun outside thats all, no pellets were fired, and he shouted out his window " STOP FIRING THAT RIFLE YOU LITTLE B*****D", anyway cut a long story short, the police wern't to bothered, they said they dont mind me shooting in the garden, but just dont p**s your neighbors off too much and laughed, so i want to know can i shoot birds (of the vermin list) in my garden without the prick reporting me and me getting done or anything? i get alot of woodies ripping up my mums vegatable patch lol so,? cheers, Markus, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msborntoshoot 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Regarding them posts a few week back,i want to know if it is legal? some people said it was, some people said it wasnt, now, the neighbor behind me is a complete :wankerzo4:, he reported me the other day and i had the police round yesterday, i was just emptying my gun outside thats all, no pellets were fired, and he shouted out his window " STOP FIRING THAT RIFLE YOU LITTLE B*****D", anyway cut a long story short, the police wern't to bothered, they said they dont mind me shooting in the garden, but just dont p**s your neighbors off too much and laughed, so i want to know can i shoot birds (of the vermin list) in my garden without the prick reporting me and me getting done or anything? i get alot of woodies ripping up my mums vegatable patch lol so,? cheers, Markus, If there causing damage to crops or our a health hazard i.e dropping contaminating foood or animal feed then yes you can legally shoot them as there classed as pests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 (edited) Yes it is legal as long as the pellets from your air rifle don't leave the perimeter of your garden, the birds in particular must be ones that are legal to take eg: feral or woodpigeons damaging brassicas in a vegetable patch Tom Regarding them posts a few week back,i want to know if it is legal? some people said it was, some people said it wasnt, now, the neighbor behind me is a complete :wankerzo4:, he reported me the other day and i had the police round yesterday, i was just emptying my gun outside thats all, no pellets were fired, and he shouted out his window " STOP FIRING THAT RIFLE YOU LITTLE B*****D", anyway cut a long story short, the police wern't to bothered, they said they dont mind me shooting in the garden, but just dont p**s your neighbors off too much and laughed, so i want to know can i shoot birds (of the vermin list) in my garden without the prick reporting me and me getting done or anything? i get alot of woodies ripping up my mums vegatable patch lol so,? cheers, Markus, Edited April 25, 2009 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 As Tom said, as long as you're shooting in accordance with the relevant general license, and ensure you're sticking to the correct boundaries and distance from the highway, there's nothing that you can get done for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter08 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 Its All Above Board Then Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter08 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 As Tom said, as long as you're shooting in accordance with the relevant general license, and ensure you're sticking to the correct boundaries and distance from the highway, there's nothing that you can get done for. does your garden have to be 50ft from the road ? and what if its not lol, does that make it illegal ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 We dont have the 50ft rule in Scotland Tom As Tom said, as long as you're shooting in accordance with the relevant general license, and ensure you're sticking to the correct boundaries and distance from the highway, there's nothing that you can get done for. does your garden have to be 50ft from the road ? and what if its not lol, does that make it illegal ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 You cannot discharge a Firearm (that includes air weapons) within 50ft of the centre of a Highway. Highways are not just roads, they can be footpaths and bridleways as well. As has been said, the pellet must not leave your property and the Vermin that is being shot must conform to the General License. Be aware if you want to use the excuse of the birds causing a Health Hazard as this clause in the license is normally the preserve of professional pest controllers. It would be difficult to prove this as a legal reason for the common shooter. If they are damaging crops then you're legal SS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patchworkcrew 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 You cannot discharge a Firearm (that includes air weapons) within 50ft of the centre of a Highway. Highways are not just roads, they can be footpaths and bridleways as well. As has been said, the pellet must not leave your property and the Vermin that is being shot must conform to the General License. Be aware if you want to use the excuse of the birds causing a Health Hazard as this clause in the license is normally the preserve of professional pest controllers. It would be difficult to prove this as a legal reason for the common shooter. If they are damaging crops then you're legal SS You got me fair and square on an earlier post re guns in cars but are you sure about the General Licence on Health grounds being the preserve of the professional? I ask because we manage Canada geese under general licence citing health but we don't employ a professional pest control operative - we do it ourselves. Bob G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted April 25, 2009 Report Share Posted April 25, 2009 You cannot discharge a Firearm (that includes air weapons) within 50ft of the centre of a Highway. Highways are not just roads, they can be footpaths and bridleways as well. As has been said, the pellet must not leave your property and the Vermin that is being shot must conform to the General License. Be aware if you want to use the excuse of the birds causing a Health Hazard as this clause in the license is normally the preserve of professional pest controllers. It would be difficult to prove this as a legal reason for the common shooter. If they are damaging crops then you're legal SS You got me fair and square on an earlier post re guns in cars but are you sure about the General Licence on Health grounds being the preserve of the professional? I ask because we manage Canada geese under general licence citing health but we don't employ a professional pest control operative - we do it ourselves. Bob G I remember reading it on a BASC publication a while back, if I can find it I will post it for you The main species that the article concerned was the shooting of Gulls on the general license for health reasons. They stated that Natural England believe that the shooting of birds, particularly gulls, for health reasons, was preserved for the professional as they would have detailed proposals on how to deal with the problem and use methods other than shooting to solve the problem. What view Natural England take on other species being shot for health reasons I couldn't say but I wouldn't like to take the chance. SS P.S. I did say "normally" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patchworkcrew 0 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 Yes agreed I have read that advice on Seagulls. I'm not entirely certain why seagulls should be the preserve of professionals but I guess that's a bit off topic. I must admit - I'd never really thought about the 50 ft rule and gardens but I suppose it's pretty logical it should to gardens as anywhere else. Bob G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 160 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 You cannot discharge a Firearm (that includes air weapons) within 50ft of the centre of a Highway. Highways are not just roads, they can be footpaths and bridleways as well. I hate to be pickey, but that is not quite right. It is an offence under the Highways Act 1980 s 161(2) to light any fire on or over a carriageway, or discharge any firearm or firework within 50 feet of the centre of a highway which is a carriageway, with the consequence that a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. The section applies to rights of way over which there are vehicular rights, e.g. ways shown on the definitive map as byways open to all traffic, but not to footpaths and bridleways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter08 0 Posted April 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 so does the 50ft rule apply then or.... ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markbivvy 6 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 (edited) so does the 50ft rule apply then or.... ? yes. and read this. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article720506.ece Edited April 26, 2009 by markbivvy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toka 10 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 yes, the 50' rule applies, but....if you are only 20' from the centre of a highway and you discharge a firearm but there were no cars/pedestrians going past or no one was interrupted, injured or endangered [i.e moderated shotgun/airrifle/rifle etc] then you would not be committing an offence. that is the letter of the law...but as people have explained if you are shooting under the general licence and are 50' from the centre of a highway, on land you have permission to shoot over [pellet/bullet/shot doesnt leave that boundary] then you are 100% ok. it may be best to try to speak to your neighbour, convince him of the need, agree some conditions??, show him how responsible you are etc....but that will all depend on your situation with the neighbour...it is always best to try to keep them onside, if they keep reporting it you may get a bobby who is less tollerant towards you or less knowledgable who turns up and gives you grief. ATB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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