How many eggs do harris hawks usually produce? Five so far.

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

How many eggs do harris hawks usually produce? Five so far. I wonder if the RSPB will DNA the chicks if they hatch with probes that work this time?

[silverfoxsid08 27]

How many eggs do harris hawks usually produce? Five so far. I wonder if the RSPB will DNA the chicks if they hatch with probes that work this time?

you in box is full mate

[jasper65 6]

This pair is down on 5 Derek! she's done a 6 in the past not often. she'll normally do a 4 in the second round.......

 

Nice going though mate top bombing ....

 

Jasper

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

This pair is down on 5 Derek! she's done a 6 in the past not often. she'll normally do a 4 in the second round.......

 

Nice going though mate top bombing ....

 

Jasper

FIRST ONE HATCHED DONKEY'S EARS. OFFERED HAVE IT DNA PROFILLED TO THE RSPB BUT THERE PROBES DO NOT WORK.

[jasper65 6]

Thats not a Harrishawk chick!!! Its one of them endangered Bateared Red Crows from the Galapagos Islands ....

 

well done mate thats a good result . has anymore pipped yet?

 

Jasper

[Foxy09 3]

Can i ask why u asked the RSPB to DNA test your chicks??

 

Foxy

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

Can i ask why u asked the RSPB to DNA test your chicks??

 

Foxy

 

Just in case they have any doubt that I lawfully bird the chick from my lawfully held parent birds that were lawfully bred by someone else.

Edited April 25, 2009 by DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS]

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

Thats not a Harrishawk chick!!! Its one of them endangered Bateared Red Crows from the Galapagos Islands ....

 

well done mate thats a good result . has anymore pipped yet?

 

Jasper

 

It is the first harris hawk ever bred in captivity in my garden this year for now.

 

Another egg has drawn down but has not piped yet.

Edited April 25, 2009 by jasper65

[Foxy09 3]

Can i ask why u asked the RSPB to DNA test your chicks??

 

Foxy

 

Just in case they have any doubt that I lawfully bird the chick from my lawfully held parent birds that were lawfully bred by someone else.

 

Didnt know it was possible to unlawfully breed harrises in this country, so still not sure where your coming from, if it were peregrines or something native then yes but harrises?

 

Foxy

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

Can i ask why u asked the RSPB to DNA test your chicks??

 

Foxy

 

Just in case they have any doubt that I lawfully bird the chick from my lawfully held parent birds that were lawfully bred by someone else.

 

Didnt know it was possible to unlawfully breed harrises in this country, so still not sure where your coming from, if it were peregrines or something native then yes but harrises?

 

Foxy

 

You could always smuggle them in from abroad

[Foxy09 3]

Can i ask why u asked the RSPB to DNA test your chicks??

 

Foxy

 

Just in case they have any doubt that I lawfully bird the chick from my lawfully held parent birds that were lawfully bred by someone else.

 

Didnt know it was possible to unlawfully breed harrises in this country, so still not sure where your coming from, if it were peregrines or something native then yes but harrises?

 

Foxy

 

You could always smuggle them in from abroad

 

So how would the RSPB know that your chicks and there parents and there parents before them were bred in captivity and not 'smuggled" in from abroad by DNA testing? Unless they keep some DNA database on Harris hawks which in this country would be no easy task, i think it would be hard to prove anything so still dont see the point in you asking them to do it unless your just being controversial? Doubt they would be interested in dNA testing your chicks unless they have reason to believe you may be involved in something illegal.

 

Foxy

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

Fox you DNA one of the parents and against a given chick.

[Foxy09 3]

Fox you DNA one of the parents and against a given chick.

 

Yes i understand the process of how DNA testing is done but what im saying is unless they have a data base of Hh reared in captivity and hence something to check the dna against it would be completely useless?? How would they know that the parents and parents before them were not illegally imported?? And with the number of HarrisHawks breeders in this country i doubt there would be any market at all for imported smuggled birds because there really is no need for them? it would be like trying to import smuggled dogs...pointless! The RSPB know this which is why i think they arent taking much interest in testing your chicks.

 

Foxy

[DEREK CANNING LLB[HONS] 20]

Fox you DNA one of the parents and against a given chick.

 

Yes i understand the process of how DNA testing is done but what im saying is unless they have a data base of Hh reared in captivity and hence something to check the dna against it would be completely useless?? How would they know that the parents and parents before them were not illegally imported?? And with the number of HarrisHawks breeders in this country i doubt there would be any market at all for imported smuggled birds because there really is no need for them? it would be like trying to import smuggled dogs...pointless! The RSPB know this which is why i think they arent taking much interest in testing your chicks.

 

Foxy

 

 

 

Well very interesting Mr Wolf I mean Mr fox. Now if I can clearly explain, my comments were in tongue and cheek with a bit of sarcasm in relation to the single locus probes that did not work and were used to send men to jail. Now that is fact, simple put and true.

 

Now what birds do you fly?

[Foxy09 3]

Fox you DNA one of the parents and against a given chick.

 

Yes i understand the process of how DNA testing is done but what im saying is unless they have a data base of Hh reared in captivity and hence something to check the dna against it would be completely useless?? How would they know that the parents and parents before them were not illegally imported?? And with the number of HarrisHawks breeders in this country i doubt there would be any market at all for imported smuggled birds because there really is no need for them? it would be like trying to import smuggled dogs...pointless! The RSPB know this which is why i think they arent taking much interest in testing your chicks.

 

Foxy

 

 

 

Well very interesting Mr Wolf I mean Mr fox. Now if I can clearly explain, my comments were in tongue and cheek with a bit of sarcasm in relation to the single locus probes that did not work and were used to send men to jail. Now that is fact, simple put and true.

 

Now what birds do you fly?

 

Oh right, wasnt aware you were being sarcastic, but am i right in thinking one of those men was you? which would explain your interest in it? Have flown Harrises for a few years, falcons with various friends and am taking on a Tribred myself this season, yourself?

 

Foxy