JPTfellterrier 65 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 well yesterday i tryed to do the walk i had dont since i was 13 but to get from my house i have to walk down the edge of a field used for crops and then along a farm track which is about 150-200 yards max, and although i was walking round the edge trying to get to the foot path which runs through anouther part of this toss pots land he had a big go at me even though i was really polite and showed him were i came from and were i was going, so my dad went down and he started going at him with all this shit about how farmers dont like people like me going on there land round there then my dad came at him with the fact i have permision on 3 farms surrounding his land but any way that isnt my point my boyfriend said he was sure there was a law in scotland that gave me the right to roam,has anyone else heard of this? and if so does it apply in england? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 if you shouldnt be on there then keep off simple really Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 just wasnt sure as the foot path runs through that area! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Don't know what the law is in England" but these two links may help? http://www.ramblers.org.uk/freedom/ http://www.desktoplawyer.co.uk/dt/browse/l...0&aid=34460 Could the farmer have been concerned about causing damage to growing crops? (Trespass with intent to damage) In Scotland we have a right of access to points A and B as long as we don't cause a nuisance or damage but you can still be convicted of things like armed trespass, trespass in the pursuit of game and trespassing and causing criminal damage Tom Edited April 21, 2009 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest SJM Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 The right to roam act applies in scotland but not sure about england? dont let the guy bully you just go where you want and do what you want, whats the worst he can do to you? barks probably worse than his bite most shouty people are like that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 not really as i was walking along the edge which is about 50 yards,he could see that as he was spraying in the next field and the rest of the way i was on a farm track used by tractors, thank you i will have a look spoke to the person who has the neighbouring field and they said that when they were renewing the fence he was a right nob and was coming down every 15 minutes checking were they were putting the posts....you know the sort Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxgun Tom 75 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) The right to roam applies to England and Wales The legal right - or right to roam - was provided by The Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000. What it is not is right to walk anywhere you like, the new right of access on foot only applies to mapped areas of "open country" as defined by the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000(CRoW). This is currently mountain, moor, heath land, down land and registered common land Click on the link for a copy of the act: http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/ukpga_20000037_en_1 As most trespass is a civil wrong the farmer would have to go to court to get an injunction to prevent you from trespassing, this costs money and probably is'nt worth him taking action against you, If you were on footpath that is deemed public? tell him "to go and take a feck to himself!" Tom Ps: in some instances a farm track could be described as a public right of way after its been used by members of the public for a certain number of years? Pps: JPfellterrier I've just looked at your profile and noticed your a young lady! I apologise for my use of bad language in the above , maybe you could just tell the idiot "to bugger off" rather than use the type of lanuage I would resort to The right to roam act applies in scotland but not sure about england? dont let the guy bully you just go where you want and do what you want, whats the worst he can do to you? barks probably worse than his bite most shouty people are like that Edited April 21, 2009 by Foxgun Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greatwhitehunter 47 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 ino where your comming from and it isnt really your fault, but he has a right to go mental if your on his land and you didnt have permission to be on there, haha if i had a pound for everytime a farmer went mental on me for tresspassing id be bloody loaded Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MikeTheDog 153 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 It's the farmers land and if he doesn't want you on it that's his right!...I think some that reckon they can go anywhere would soon get pissed off with people walking through their garden to and fro the shops. Don't get me wrong, I'm no goody two shoes that keeps to the public right of ways, I usually keep out of sight and respect the farmer if they have a pop at me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest jt750 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 The right to roam act applies in scotland but not sure about england? dont let the guy bully you just go where you want and do what you want, whats the worst he can do to you? barks probably worse than his bite most shouty people are like that People like you give hunters a real good name ....its probably because of attitudes like yours he won't let people on his land Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gav 1,708 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 An ordnance survey map of the area should show you any public footpaths in the immediate area, if there is one across his land you are quite within your rights to use it. Do remember if you are on any private land with a weapon covered or uncovered it could be counted as trespass with a firearm (even air rifles). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 i know hes being pretty unreasonable im just going to pee him off by walking on my permision were he can see me right the way round his land (the only way i can get to the foot path now) then walk along the foot path that goes right infront of the grumpy old twats house but if this "right to roam" thing is true can we legally lamp with dogs anywere we like or is there somthing stopping that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 Rights of public in relation to access land (1) Any person is entitled by virtue of this subsection to enter and remain on any access land for the purposes of open-air recreation, if and so long as— (a) he does so without breaking or damaging any wall, fence, hedge, stile or gate, and ( he observes the general restrictions in Schedule 2 and any other restrictions imposed in relation to the land under Chapter II. (2) Subsection (1) has effect subject to subsections (3) and (4) and to the provisions of Chapter II. (3) Subsection (1) does not entitle a person to enter or be on any land, or do anything on any land, in contravention of any prohibition contained in or having effect under any enactment, other than an enactment contained in a local or private Act. (4) If a person becomes a trespasser on any access land by failing to comply with— (a) subsection (1)(a), ( the general restrictions in Schedule 2, or © any other restrictions imposed in relation to the land under Chapter II, he may not, within 72 hours after leaving that land, exercise his right under subsection (1) to enter that land again or to enter other land in the same ownership. (5) In this section “ownerâ€, in relation to any land which is subject to a farm business tenancy within the meaning of the [1995 c. 8.] Agricultural Tenancies Act 1995 or a tenancy to which the [1986 c. 5.] Agricultural Holdings Act 1986 applies, means the tenant under that tenancy, and “ownership†shall be construed accordingly. think thats the right bit, what is open air recreation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trapperman 474 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 i know hes being pretty unreasonable im just going to pee him off by walking on my permision were he can see me right the way round his land (the only way i can get to the foot path now) then walk along the foot path that goes right infront of the grumpy old twats house but if this "right to roam" thing is true can we legally lamp with dogs anywere we like or is there somthing stopping that roaming and lamping are two different things Quote Link to post Share on other sites
riohog 5,725 Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 only with permission any were else no in persuit of game illigal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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