stevemac 433 Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 Gday Millie the English bull terrier was very popular in auss. back in the seventies when I was getting serious about hunting Hot trailling nose, miles of detmination but the bloody things wouldn't let go or if they thought it was their pig lookout any other dog to close. So to counter act this blokes crossed EBTs with cattledogs,Kelpies or any other bidible dog they could find. now the bull cattle cross is legendary around aussie pig hunting circiles. now days the pigs do suffer a lot of hunting pressure and are just as likely to run as stand and fight so most hunters use dogs with a bit of running dog in there some where. trying to combine the power of the mastiff breeds with the ternasity of the bull breeds, speed of the running dogs and the brains of the working dogs. If along the way you have thrown in a bit of hound or pointer for nose then that can only help as well. the dog on the right is an example of this mi/ ebt/greyhound /pointer xAm bulldog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yeeharr 41 Posted December 29, 2006 Report Share Posted December 29, 2006 Romney marsh and Walland marsh in Kent near Dungerness are places someone with bull x's and Deerhound x Greyhounds and a couple of working Beddies could possible kill an English wild boar without the dogs getting ripped to bits (it was the place a couple of years ago!!). IME the dogs don't get knocked about much more than when run single handed on a hard fighting charlie. Obviously there is the potential for a dog to be killed but unless your dog is particularly hard/stupid it won't go nose to nose with a pig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dobby 1 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 I've seen wild boar not saying area but in Yorkshire whilst out lamping lads with me wanted to put dogs on it said you haven't a pray lovely to see though dobby Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MATTI 34 Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 I've seen wild boar not saying area but in Yorkshire whilst out lamping lads with me wanted to put dogs on it said you haven't a pray lovely to see though dobby If the lads that were with you did put the dogs on it and the dogs were game enough to hold it, would they of been game enough to help the dogs or would they of expected the dogs to shake it and retrieve it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erik 71 Posted January 10, 2007 Report Share Posted January 10, 2007 for the small pigs a normal terrier is good enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kiwi 4 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 Romney marsh and Walland marsh in Kent near Dungerness are places someone with bull x's and Deerhound x Greyhounds and a couple of working Beddies could possible kill an English wild boar without the dogs getting ripped to bits (it was the place a couple of years ago!!). IME the dogs don't get knocked about much more than when run single handed on a hard fighting charlie. Obviously there is the potential for a dog to be killed but unless your dog is particularly hard/stupid it won't go nose to nose with a pig. thats alot of dogs to be using on a boar mate, on smaller pigs they would make short work of it, but it would be a bloody mess and hardly sporting, if you are expect dogs to just kill pigs you are wasting your time the only way a dog can kill a med- large sixe pig is to chew through the back of the neck or chew the snot off or through the nasal passage, both ways involve alot of pain as it's not over in seconds,expecting any type of dogs to maul a pig to death is to be avoided. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boerhunter77 1 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 for the small pigs a normal terrier is good enough Superb pics, he looks an eager little fellow. Jon www.hunterkennel.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yeeharr 41 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) Romney marsh and Walland marsh in Kent near Dungerness are places someone with bull x's and Deerhound x Greyhounds and a couple of working Beddies could possible kill an English wild boar without the dogs getting ripped to bits (it was the place a couple of years ago!!). IME the dogs don't get knocked about much more than when run single handed on a hard fighting charlie. Obviously there is the potential for a dog to be killed but unless your dog is particularly hard/stupid it won't go nose to nose with a pig. thats alot of dogs to be using on a boar mate, on smaller pigs they would make short work of it, but it would be a bloody mess and hardly sporting, if you are expect dogs to just kill pigs you are wasting your time the only way a dog can kill a med- large sixe pig is to chew through the back of the neck or chew the snot off or through the nasal passage, both ways involve alot of pain as it's not over in seconds,expecting any type of dogs to maul a pig to death is to be avoided. To be truthful mate we were mooching for rabbits and foxes up near the artillery range, when we first saw the pigs. The bull crosses were slipped and the bloke holding the deerhound x greyhound slipped him as well, it was the dogs first encounter with pigs as well as ours. They looked pretty big to us (the dogs had all taken deer) excitment took over and I'll be the first to admit that it wasn't sporting but we killed our first pig. On subsequent visits we went out with pigs in mind but on most occassions slipped 3 dogs, we didn't have anyone to ask as to what was the best/right way to do it, most other blokes we spoke to had never seen them let alone hunted them! The beddlingtons were used by a mate of ours from Ireland who had used them on ALL quarry ! We used them in a village called Tenterden where a guy was growing fancy types of bamboo (we found out later that he was growing marajuana in greenhouses behind the bamboo). The beddies would be entered on one side of the bamboo and the longdogs would wait on the other, as the pigs got pushed out we would slip the longdogs on them.The beddies also worked the blackberry bushes at the side of this blokes orchard. We killed 7 pigs in total, but saw a load more. I think we put them under too much pressure because they suddenly disappeared and weren't in any of the places we had permission or could safely mooch. At no time did we expect the dogs to kill the pigs, I even help my dogs out with foxes. Edited January 11, 2007 by yeeharr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 so far this year we have had 12 boar and all we use is a lakeland dog and 2 bull crosses the lakeland finds the boar and keeps them entertained while the lurchers hold the pig we get in and knife it just behind the front leg game over another one for the freezer, the lurchers do have a tendancy to rip the ears of the pigs and all this happens down in deepest somerset who needs a passport? its exelent sport 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkutchi 0 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Share Posted January 11, 2007 (edited) so far this year we have had 12 boar and all we use is a lakeland dog and 2 bull crosses the lakeland finds the boar and keeps them entertained while the lurchers hold the pig we get in and knife it just behind the front leg game over another one for the freezer, the lurchers do have a tendancy to rip the ears of the pigs and all this happens down in deepest somerset who needs a passport? its exelent sport any pics?,be great to see anyone in the UK doing Boar/wild Pig hunting with dogs? Edited January 11, 2007 by Berkutchi Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted January 12, 2007 Report Share Posted January 12, 2007 ILL SEE WHAT I CAN DO RE SOME PIC WE HAVE SOME SOMWHERE BUT IAM NOT ONE FOR FOR POSING AROUND WITH CAMERAS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shanedog 0 Posted January 17, 2007 Report Share Posted January 17, 2007 Is that a break stick being used on that little terrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ginge2k6 0 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 I have seen some ugly boar in that big brother house Quote Link to post Share on other sites
erik 71 Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 so far this year we have had 12 boar and all we use is a lakeland dog and 2 bull crosses the lakeland finds the boar and keeps them entertained while the lurchers hold the pig we get in and knife it just behind the front leg game over another one for the freezer, the lurchers do have a tendancy to rip the ears of the pigs and all this happens down in deepest somerset who needs a passport? its exelent sport what are the weights of the boars you get..? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 WELL ERIK I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE WAS 160 POUNDS BUT MOST OF THEM ARE AROUND THE 100 MARK, THEY DO SEEM TO BE GETTING BIGGER AS THEY ARE GETTING MORE ESTABLISHED . HAPPY HUNTIN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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