canada geese cull?

[Jim Taylor 0]

Does anyone know when I'm allowed to shoot canadian geese?

A bloke on a shoot told me theyre classed as a pest now and their protection has been lifted.

A local farmer has asked me to look into it as he has hundreds on his fields and theyre wrecking the grass and river/lakes.

Whats the law folks?

[shottyscotty 3]

its legal to shoot canada geese all year round as they are classed as pests but only in england and when damaging crops

[SportingShooter 0]

And as ever you have to prove that all other methods don't work according to the General License.

 

How are you planning to shoot them?

 

If you plan to use a shotgun, even though they are outside of the Wildfowling season and are classed as a pest, you still have to use Non Toxic shot to shoot them

[Rolfe 2]

Providing you comply with all the terms under the general licence you can also shoot them with a .22 rimfire if that is more practicable for taking longer shots. A word of caution here though.....you MUST have it stated on your Firearm Certificate to include the shooting of birds.

 

Rolfe

[Mr_Logic 5]

Providing you comply with all the terms under the general licence you can also shoot them with a .22 rimfire if that is more practicable for taking longer shots. A word of caution here though.....you MUST have it stated on your Firearm Certificate to include the shooting of birds.

 

Rolfe

No you don't, that's wrong.

 

Canada geese are classed as vermin, and as such you may shoot them with a vermin ticket. Unlike our foxy friend, there's no ambiguity on this one.

 

For rifle shooting, you need something of reasonable size. 22LR works but you have to get bloody close, 17HMR doesn't work humanely, it's not enough gun.

 

Minimum 22 Magnum, but something decent is better, they take some stopping. I have had success with Hornet, 223 and 243, and of those a 243 90gr SP was the best blend between human destruction and an edible carcass. If you're not eating, find something with lots of power, some penetration and explosive terminal ballistics, and go and blat the little sh1ts

[shottyscotty 3]

surly a 17 to the head would kill them

[Rolfe 2]

Providing you comply with all the terms under the general licence you can also shoot them with a .22 rimfire if that is more practicable for taking longer shots. A word of caution here though.....you MUST have it stated on your Firearm Certificate to include the shooting of birds.

 

Rolfe

No you don't, that's wrong.

 

Canada geese are classed as vermin, and as such you may shoot them with a vermin ticket. Unlike our foxy friend, there's no ambiguity on this one.

 

For rifle shooting, you need something of reasonable size. 22LR works but you have to get bloody close, 17HMR doesn't work humanely, it's not enough gun.

 

Minimum 22 Magnum, but something decent is better, they take some stopping. I have had success with Hornet, 223 and 243, and of those a 243 90gr SP was the best blend between human destruction and an edible carcass. If you're not eating, find something with lots of power, some penetration and explosive terminal ballistics, and go and blat the little sh1ts

 

I was told by my Firearms Officer that it MUST state birds........not just VERMIN on the certificate......I was under the same assumption as you until I had it pointed out and had to have my ticket ammended accordingly.

Check with your licencing Dept to clarify the point..........But this is what i had to do ..........and as a full time pest controller i can only go on what i was instructed to do.

I have my Firearms Officer calling out on thursday........i'll check the point again with him........and if i am wrong then i will stand corrected

 

 

Rolfe.

[Mr_Logic 5]

Providing you comply with all the terms under the general licence you can also shoot them with a .22 rimfire if that is more practicable for taking longer shots. A word of caution here though.....you MUST have it stated on your Firearm Certificate to include the shooting of birds.

 

Rolfe

No you don't, that's wrong.

 

Canada geese are classed as vermin, and as such you may shoot them with a vermin ticket. Unlike our foxy friend, there's no ambiguity on this one.

 

For rifle shooting, you need something of reasonable size. 22LR works but you have to get bloody close, 17HMR doesn't work humanely, it's not enough gun.

 

Minimum 22 Magnum, but something decent is better, they take some stopping. I have had success with Hornet, 223 and 243, and of those a 243 90gr SP was the best blend between human destruction and an edible carcass. If you're not eating, find something with lots of power, some penetration and explosive terminal ballistics, and go and blat the little sh1ts

 

I was told by my Firearms Officer that it MUST state birds........not just VERMIN on the certificate......I was under the same assumption as you until I had it pointed out and had to have my ticket ammended accordingly.

Check with your licencing Dept to clarify the point..........But this is what i had to do ..........and as a full time pest controller i can only go on what i was instructed to do.

I have my Firearms Officer calling out on thursday........i'll check the point again with him........and if i am wrong then i will stand corrected

 

 

Rolfe.

 

I suspect your firearm officer is wrong. If you were to shoot a game bird with the rifle, then he's correct. But the Canada goose is not considered to be a game bird, due to its presence on the General License. Otherwise, you would need it for crows too - before long vermin = rabbits, and that's daft.

[Mr_Logic 5]

surly a 17 to the head would kill them

yeah it does. Every now and then you get one that is motionless long enough to make the shot. Otherwise a body shot with a CF wins hands down! (or even 22LR at a close range, the penetration works well)

[Guest john5]

canada geese are not vermin , they have been rescheduled , they maintain the satus of wildfowl under EU law ,that means to meet the terms of the genral licence YOU MUST PROVE that all other methods to deter them from doing damage have been used ,also under EU law it is illeagal to use ANY shot containing more than 2% lead , rifle projectiles have a substantial larger amount of lead than this , also under the 1954 wildbirds act it is illeagal to use a single projectile when in the pursuit of wildfowl .

 

now i dont give a shit what you do , or what your fierarms officer said , thats how it is , the RSPB is allways looking for prosecutions and we all know that they "prick" thousands of canada goose eggs each year , cover your arse and dont get prosecuted for being "missled"

[Mr_Logic 5]

canada geese are not vermin , they have been rescheduled , they maintain the satus of wildfowl under EU law ,that means to meet the terms of the genral licence YOU MUST PROVE that all other methods to deter them from doing damage have been used ,also under EU law it is illeagal to use ANY shot containing more than 2% lead , rifle projectiles have a substantial larger amount of lead than this , also under the 1954 wildbirds act it is illeagal to use a single projectile when in the pursuit of wildfowl .

 

now i dont give a shit what you do , or what your fierarms officer said , thats how it is , the RSPB is allways looking for prosecutions and we all know that they "prick" thousands of canada goose eggs each year , cover your arse and dont get prosecuted for being "missled"

Right, this pisses me off right royally. If you think that I'm wrong then fine, but I want a LINK to where they've been taken off the general license this year. Could you please provide one?

[Nige69 0]

If you take a look at the following link this should answer your questions - this can be found through the BASC website under general licences. Other general licences are also listed.

 

http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/WM...7_tcm6-7671.pdf

Edited April 21, 2009 by Nige69

[Rolfe 2]

canada geese are not vermin , they have been rescheduled , they maintain the satus of wildfowl under EU law ,that means to meet the terms of the genral licence YOU MUST PROVE that all other methods to deter them from doing damage have been used ,also under EU law it is illeagal to use ANY shot containing more than 2% lead , rifle projectiles have a substantial larger amount of lead than this , also under the 1954 wildbirds act it is illeagal to use a single projectile when in the pursuit of wildfowl .

 

now i dont give a shit what you do , or what your fierarms officer said , thats how it is , the RSPB is allways looking for prosecutions and we all know that they "prick" thousands of canada goose eggs each year , cover your arse and dont get prosecuted for being "missled"

This is an interesting debate for sure........as i understand it the 2% covers SHOT only.. not a bullet. As i said, i have a meeting with the Firearms officer on Thursday and i will get hopefully a definitive answer.

[lurchers 2,867]

im a full time pest controller and i no you can take them all year round mate if i was you i would be there first thing to fill my freezer up good luck

[Beechessam 0]

They have not been taken off the general licence.

 

Under the wildlife and countryside act ALL wild birds are protected. The general licence allows for listed birds to be controlled where necessary. This does not mean that birds listed on the general licence are vermin.

 

They are still classed as wild birds and are protected by law, except where the general licence allows for culling. eg To protect arable of for health reason.

 

They have never been re classified as vermin.

 

Here is a link.

 

http://www.naturalengland.gov.uk/Images/WM...5_tcm6-7669.pdf

 

http://www.countryside-alliance.org.uk/sho...licence-advice/

Edited April 21, 2009 by Beechessam