Guest mucker Posted June 6, 2006 Report Share Posted June 6, 2006 for those that feed complete through out the year i dont work the dogs out of season so if your the same what feed do you drop your dogs down to cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kane 2 Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 for those that feed complete through out the year i dont work the dogs out of season so if your the same what feed do you drop your dogs down to cheers At the moment if meat is short mine get chappie.20% protein. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyrat 0 Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 andy,if your cooking tripe in mrs asd's kitchen,give that woman a medal,coz im sure not many of the lads would get away with that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reload Posted June 7, 2006 Report Share Posted June 7, 2006 Why would you want to cook tripe for, it makes it value close to nothing?? Feed it raw and not over washed out and its a superb basis for a fresh dog feed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stabs 3 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 I always feed raw tripe. Cooked tripe is as much use as feeding wet carboard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stabs 3 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 If it's going ok for you Andy, then fair play If you look at the stats, cooked tripe comes in a poor second Cooked Tripe Fat 2% Calcium 2% Iron 1% Protein 3g Raw Tripe Fat 6% Calcium 8% Iron 4% Protein 14g All based on a 4oz serving Calories per 1oz serving Cooked 26.6 Raw 96.1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stabs 3 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Cheers Andy.. As a feed on it's own, raw or cooked is shite, but as you say, as a base it can be a very useful feed. All the best Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stabs 3 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Personally I never feed cooked meat for my lurchers at all so I would only advocate raw. I can tell you what I feed although endurance in terms of length of run for say a fen dog, has never been a concern of mine. My dogs are out for long stretches with me so that's the only endurance I require. I feed mostly whole chicken carcasses, lamb ribs, beef skirt, tripe, pigs heads and lamb spines. These are all supplemented with left overs from the butchers such as old cuts of steak, raw sausages, mince, trotters, pigs tails, ears etc etc and I don't pay a penny for it. I think chicken carcasses are the best feed in my opinion as they have the right ratio of meat, bone and fat. If you are after energy then it's fats you want and plenty of protein for recovery and muscle building/retention. All of that is part of a balanced diet though, with veggies and fruit and no complete dried food involved. My terriers can't process the volume of bone though so they are fed something different. The best men to speak to on this subject is Reload or Roundhead, although I don't think Roundhead has been on for a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reload Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 SWD, It's quite a question that mate. But i would not ADD to a complete feed in anyway, to many dogs have problems with it in my book and know of lots of dogs who have died of bloat and have had lots of other problems related to doing this. Its a complete waste of time. Most people feed fresh differently, and to me thats the key thing with feeding fresh food, as you can adjust the food to suit the dog. And thats the skill of feeding fresh, but you will not regret it thats for sure, you will see a improvment in most dogs in around 4-8 weeks. 3/4 Tripe and 1/4 either heart/tongues/beef shin/cheek is my basic mix which i feed as the basis near enough all year round. Then its chicken carcass/wings/lambbones/venison bones(mainly ribs) Fresh veg now and then maybe 2-3 times a week depending on whats around. A few special supplements too But all the above varies at the time of year and what the dog is doing such as getting the dog fit, or for working the dog several nights a week, growing puppy etc etc. In the winter I feed larger amounts of red meats especially cheek or beef shin and chicken carcasses. Also I do a breakfast which varies again with the dog can be occassional egg, wholemeal mixer biscuit, sardines, live yoghurt etc etc. I dont know if this answers you questiion but thats just what i do the same as several generations of my family who have kept kennels of dogs of lots of breeds. The added bonus for a little extra time spent doing the dogs feed is the dogs look 100% and the pocket has a few extra pennys in it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilky 0 Posted June 8, 2006 Report Share Posted June 8, 2006 Whilst this topic is going, what does anyone use as a supplement, I feed raw and used to use SA37, but I don't anymore, my dogs look fine without, but a well known greyhound breeder/trainer close to me uses a supplement designed for horses called Clomp and swears by it, he says a tub the size of a bucket costs about the same as a tub of SA37 the size of a beans tin. Also how many of todays running dog men know anything about the old wives tale of dogs that were poor strikers needing the clomp in the roof of their mouth nipping off to relieve pressure on the nerve end, an old blacksmith in our village told me this tale when I was in my early teens and gave me a pair of clomping pliers, which I never had the need to use and wouldn't have done anyway, sounds a bit radged to me and I've been shown all kinds over the years, how to drop prick ears etc. but he was adamant that's what they used to do. I'm not saying I believed him, but he was until dying this year, without doubt one of the best livestock men I've ever had dealings with. This is going off topic a bit, but recently when Millet was getting slavver from the pet ferret keepers about selective breeding, which I agree with 100%, (if it wasn't for this practice all our stock, terriers, lurchers, ferrets etc would be CRAP), I thought about this blacksmith and a few other old fellas in our village who have kept and bred ferrets all their lives and every one of them breed just what they need and get rid of any surplus just the same as Millet, with the slight exception that they don't tap them and waste them, they ALL to a man just give the surplus young to the Hob ferret, WASTE NOT WANT NOT, it's what they've always done. And NO I won't be replying to the same bunch of virtual hunters who are almost bound to kick off again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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