iamduvern 62 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 good luck with your application i find having a certificate keeps you on the straight and narrow as if there is a fight in town you wouldnt think twice bout jumping in but if you have a certificate you think.. hang on if i get caught its gone... thats the way i look at it anyway cheers What bollocks!! once a scroat always a scroat whats the point of encouraging this plank?He probably wears his conviction like a badge of honour ABH RECORD at the age of 16 whats he going to be like when hes 20?? Most likely the school bully also people like him wouldnt think twice about getting in to a tear up cert or no cert whats he going to be like once he gets on the beer? I know kids get in to trouble but ABH AT 15 think about it!! Quote Link to post
Andyy 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 good luck with your application i find having a certificate keeps you on the straight and narrow as if there is a fight in town you wouldnt think twice bout jumping in but if you have a certificate you think.. hang on if i get caught its gone... thats the way i look at it anyway cheers What bollocks!! once a scroat always a scroat whats the point of encouraging this plank?He probably wears his conviction like a badge of honour ABH RECORD at the age of 16 whats he going to be like when hes 20?? Most likely the school bully also people like him wouldnt think twice about getting in to a tear up cert or no cert whats he going to be like once he gets on the beer? I know kids get in to trouble but ABH AT 15 think about it!! not being funny or anything, we all have little fight's at school dont we? and no i dont where it as a badge, i dont like it, and im sorry for not being a square, you know braught up in the world with ton's of money, lifts to school from just down the road, we all make mistakes, and we learn by them Quote Link to post
CZ452American 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 im 14 15 august and ive got my licence just about i was lucky i got my licence and all i done was get cought on a motobike in a park so good luck on getting yours mate but i very much dought it so all i can say is good luck Quote Link to post
CZ452American 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 why are you waiting until august ? there is no minimum age for a shotgun license yes there is a minimum age for a shotgun licence actually the minimum age limmit is 11 so dont lisen to him he dont know jank mate Quote Link to post
CZ452American 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 i think you should apply as well just send your form an cash in if you get it great if you dont youll not have lost any thing youll get your money back an it does tend to calm you down a bit ,i know loads o guys that will walk away now theve got there tickets where as before the alamo springs to mind,good luck so bacicly i could apply tomorrow as long as it's in a parants house and have parents consent? *edit* and does that apply for the UK? where youve got a criminal record it would be quite hard but if your parents have a shotgun licence by law your parents are not aloud shotguns in there house if you live there becouse youv got a criminal record Quote Link to post
Andyy 0 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 thankyou for your help, i think im going to leave it a while, then try in a few years thanks Quote Link to post
iamduvern 62 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 good luck with your application i find having a certificate keeps you on the straight and narrow as if there is a fight in town you wouldnt think twice bout jumping in but if you have a certificate you think.. hang on if i get caught its gone... thats the way i look at it anyway cheers What bollocks!! once a scroat always a scroat whats the point of encouraging this plank?He probably wears his conviction like a badge of honour ABH RECORD at the age of 16 whats he going to be like when hes 20?? Most likely the school bully also people like him wouldnt think twice about getting in to a tear up cert or no cert whats he going to be like once he gets on the beer? I know kids get in to trouble but ABH AT 15 think about it!! not being funny or anything, we all have little fight's at school dont we? and no i dont where it as a badge, i dont like it, and im sorry for not being a square, you know braught up in the world with ton's of money, lifts to school from just down the road, we all make mistakes, and we learn by them I see your not sorry about assaulting some poor sod whats money got to do with bad behaviour lifts to school whats that got to do with bad behaviour when I was a kid I walked 4 miles to school my parents had no money but I knew the differance between right and wrong and I didnt go around commiting acts of ABH You claim to learn by your mistakes what have you done about it?? How many hours of voluntary work do you do when did you last help anyone?? You are clearly not mature enough to have a licence let alone a gun Quote Link to post
ArchieHood 3,692 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 why are you waiting until august ? there is no minimum age for a shotgun license There is if you are applying without your parents consent. You cant buy a gun or cartridges until 17, but he can have a gun gifted to him if he has a licence under the age of 17. Otherwise a 10 year old could apply for a licence and buy a gun without telling Mum! At 17 you can apply for a licence and keep at your parents (or any) home with their permission, unless you have your own property. You can then also buy, swap and sell guns on that licence. consent wasnt the issue here , it was the fact Andyy believed he had to be 18 to apply Quote Link to post
tom1cameron 1 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) so bacicly i could apply tomorrow as long as it's in a parants house and have parents consent? *edit* and does that apply for the UK? 1. Yes, but get someone to spell check your application for you 2. Yes 3. But it also applies that you can only shoot with another cert holder who is over (21/17?not sure) until you are 17. That applies whether you have your own weapon or not. 4. As many have said before on similar threads, conviction aside, are you a member of a shooting/clays/hunting club. If not then join one, it looks good on your application if you have made such an effort and have insurance, not that it is a requirement. Do you have mentors, again not a requirement but it is good to discuss this with the officer (i.e. who are you going to be shooting with). 5. Archie. You brought up the comment on minimum age, not me. There is minimum age. 6. iamdurvern. Who made you the judge and jury, no-one. He who casts the first stone and all that. You can be deemed irresponsible for licence ownership based on a few speeding fines. I agree with you that being convicted for ABH is not a good precendent. I hope it is in the past and he has matured a bit since then. I wish him best of luck for his behaviour in the future. Afterall we are all judge by each others behaviour! Best of luck T Edited April 16, 2009 by tom1cameron Quote Link to post
whippeter69 88 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) why are you waiting until august ? there is no minimum age for a shotgun license yes there is a minimum age for a shotgun licence actually the minimum age limmit is 11 so dont lisen to him he dont know jank mate NO there is NOT a minimal age for a SGC. Dont spread shit about the laws unless you are sure about them. More like dont listen to You. Make sure you know the law before you go saying stuff about it, you could get some one in trouble Edited April 16, 2009 by whippeter69 Quote Link to post
whippeter69 88 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 i think you should apply as well just send your form an cash in if you get it great if you dont youll not have lost any thing youll get your money back an it does tend to calm you down a bit ,i know loads o guys that will walk away now theve got there tickets where as before the alamo springs to mind,good luck so bacicly i could apply tomorrow as long as it's in a parants house and have parents consent? *edit* and does that apply for the UK? where youve got a criminal record it would be quite hard but if your parents have a shotgun licence by law your parents are not aloud shotguns in there house if you live there becouse youv got a criminal record Another load of bullshit Quote Link to post
dytkos 17,782 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 thankyou for your help, i think im going to leave it a while, then try in a few years thanks My local officer told me that a conviction had to be five years old to be considered "spent" in relation to firearms applications. Good luck. Cheers, D. Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) I'm pretty sure you have to have done time (of a specified length) to be refused. Submit application anyway - nothing to lose, and if you get refused, try again in a few years. Trusnt me, its no big deal. Download firearms guidance to the police from HMSO ..... can't find my copy, but its a good read. Edited April 16, 2009 by Fidgety Quote Link to post
tom1cameron 1 Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) NO there is NOT a minimal age for a SGC. Dont spread shit about the laws unless you are sure about them. More like dont listen to You. Make sure you know the law before you go saying stuff about it, you could get some one in trouble Can we all calm down please? Lets look at the facts http://www.basc.org.uk/en/utilities/docume...2B8C3A18D1BAAA2 There is no legal minimun for the certificate (see above). I thought it was 2 years old but apparently this was recently fought and won in the courts so that there is now no legal minimum. But there is a legal minimum age for an independent application. In other words, you cannot buy a shotgun or ammo before you are 17 and therefore you need parental of legal gaurdian permission under that age. I believe this is in the signatory part of the application (Part E). The next thing you need to check if whether the officer will want evidence of permission for you to keep the firearms locked at the house you reside in if you do not own the property. If he does not check this he is not doing his job properly! This will be helped if someone else in your household allready has a certificate/cabinet etc etc, but you did not say this. I recommend you get such permission in writing anyway and show that you are taking leadership on the issue (in addition to the ideas I told you earlier) Lastly. A conviction is NEVER spent in terms of firearms law and you must list all current and spent and previous convictions (ususally "normal" speeding fines/points are exempt). Therefore perhaps we could conclude this listing with saying that we all need to read the above document (myself included). And that Andy should apply now if he is 17, but include a parental support letter, a letter of support from his cosignatory (it is not necessary but it is great if that cosig is a shooting man/woman and proof of some regular club attendance etc etc. These will help you but you dont have to do it legally. But then because of your past the police have a right to refuse your application. Edited April 17, 2009 by tom1cameron Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Convictions count, even spent convictions need to be declared and will be taken into consideration. A conviction for violence in the recent past would make it highly unlikely that your application would be considered. what about if it was over 20yrs ago? for an F.A.C regards davy Quote Link to post
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