andyfr1968 772 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Hi, folks. I'm having problems with my lamping gear. I use springers, and have tried scope mounted lamps, but I'm fed up with having to re-zero each time I take it off or put it back on. I've been useing a Petzel 5 LED head torch for a while, and it's fine out to 25 yards or so but not enough power for any further. I'm useing a good enough scope, I could use a little help with my lighting problem though...... Cheers. Andy. Quote Link to post
woz 260 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 cluson scope mounts are pritty good.....iv used them on centre fires and not had any trouble Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 cluson scope mounts are pritty good.....iv used them on centre fires and not had any trouble Thanks, woz. It's not the mounts, it's the way the gun recoils that's causing me grief. They can be very sensative to weight or ballance changes. Cheers for the reply, mate. Quote Link to post
woz 260 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) cluson scope mounts are pritty good.....iv used them on centre fires and not had any trouble Thanks, woz. It's not the mounts, it's the way the gun recoils that's causing me grief. They can be very sensative to weight or ballance changes. Cheers for the reply, mate. sorry mate i wrote that one badly........cluson do a light mount that bolts to your scope....its about the best system....some of the bigger centre fire rifles we use have a fair bit of recoil.....alot more than a springer......if you are saying by fitting a lamp to your sight is knocking it out then your mounts that actually hold the scope to the rifle arnt upto the job....... Edited April 14, 2009 by woz Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) cluson scope mounts are pritty good.....iv used them on centre fires and not had any trouble Thanks, woz. It's not the mounts, it's the way the gun recoils that's causing me grief. They can be very sensative to weight or ballance changes. Cheers for the reply, mate. sorry mate i wrote that one badly........cluson do a light mount that bolts to your scope....its about the best system....some of the bigger centre fire rifles we use have a fair bit of recoil.....alot more than a springer......if you are saying by fitting a lamp to your sight is knocking it out then your mounts that actually hold the scope to the rifle arnt upto the job....... Thanks, mate. I see what you're saying, but with spring guns they start to move as soon as you squeeze the trigger, so (relatively) they've moved a fair bit before the pellet's left the muzzle. I know the recoil's feck-all compared to a CF rifle, it's just spring air guns can be very fussy about even a small change to anything that can affect the fireing cycle. They have a very slow lock time. Cheers. Edited April 15, 2009 by andyfr1968 Quote Link to post
Little Butch 16 Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Get yourself a quality one piece mount! Butch Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) Get yourself a quality one piece mount! Butch Aaaaaargh!! It's not a mount problem!!! But thanks anyway! Edited April 15, 2009 by andyfr1968 Quote Link to post
spike25blue 55 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) i think what the guy is saying that a spring rifle recoils and by adding a lap to the gun it will recoil differently due to the added weight etc... what i would say mate is put the lamp on then re zero and you should have no problem... if you are after a torch that will light up to around 100 yards then just go for a small tactical torch similar to the ledray here is a link for 1 that performs to around the same as the ledray if not better http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ultrafire-R2-LED-300...1742.m153.l1262 and get this mount http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/8-FIGURE-MOUNT-FOR-1...A1%7C240%3A1318 to fit it to your scope and leave the torch on so your zero is always the same i put my local RFD onto these torch's and he no longer sells the ledrays as these are selling better and have good reports back from his customers atb rob Edited April 15, 2009 by spike25blue Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Get yourself a quality one piece mount! Butch Aaaaaargh!! It's not a mount problem!!! But thanks anyway! I am afraid, that there is no way round having to re zero your gun for use with the lamp and vice versa. The only solution to that problem would be a PCP. Or leaving the lamp on. Sorry Michael Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Agreed. The only wa to solve the problem is to leave it on of off and not keep switching between the two. PCP would work or having a hand held lampmight but that is very awkward an not ideal. Hope you are getting the answers you wanted now. ATB Freddy Quote Link to post
frostym8 0 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 Agreed. The only wa to solve the problem is to leave it on of off and not keep switching between the two. PCP would work or having a hand held lampmight but that is very awkward an not ideal. Hope you are getting the answers you wanted now. ATB Freddy you could always buy a new gun if not try a good mount? Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) How many times does this guy have to point out that the mount has nothing to do with it. Its all to do with the recoil on a spring rifle. When you zero it you have to take into account the recoil. Unlike on a PCP. So when you add weight to it (some thing like a gun lamp for instance) the recoil changes and thus your zero is not longer in the same place. So getting a good mount will not help at all. ATB Freddy Edited April 15, 2009 by Freddy Watts Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 How many times does this guy have to point out that the mount has nothing to do with it. Its all to do with the recoil on a spring rifle. When you zero it you have to take into account the recoil. Unlike on a PCP. So when you add weight to it (some thing like a gun lamp for instance) the recoil changes and thus your zero is not longer in the same place. So getting a good mount will not help at all. ATB Freddy Should I do one on springer recoil in the FAQ section ??? Fore the education resistant ones among us ATB Michael Quote Link to post
ghillies 209 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 petzal 6v halogen or the H7R or H7 LED Lenser head lights (CREE) Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 15, 2009 Report Share Posted April 15, 2009 How many times does this guy have to point out that the mount has nothing to do with it. Its all to do with the recoil on a spring rifle. When you zero it you have to take into account the recoil. Unlike on a PCP. So when you add weight to it (some thing like a gun lamp for instance) the recoil changes and thus your zero is not longer in the same place. So getting a good mount will not help at all. ATB Freddy Should I do one on springer recoil in the FAQ section ??? Fore the education resistant ones among us ATB Michael You are going to be writing FAQ's for everything soon mate. I thought it was made pretty obvious what the problem was. They obviously don't understand springers. Good luck if you decide to write the FAQ. Freddy Quote Link to post
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