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Im shit at maths so I find the easiest way to work it out is to draw a diagram made up of wee boxes :thumbs:

 

Say you bred a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie with a collie/greyhound x wheaten/whippet, you would draw 8 boxes in 2 groups of 4, one for the sire and one for the dam. In the first set of 4 boxes you would write 3 letter Gs and one C (G = Greyhound C = Collie) and in the other set you would write 1C 1G 1WN and 1WT, then you would add them up accordingly, which would give you 4/8 Greyhound 2/8 collie 1/8 wheaten 1/8 whippet you can then divide the fractions further, 4/8 = 1/2 and 2/8 = 1/4

If the breeding is more complex, then you will need to use 16 boxes, one for each set of grandparents and work out the fractions from there. If the breeding is that complex you need more than 16 boxes to work it out, and theres more than 4 or 5 breeds then your probably best off just calling it a "bitza" :laugh:

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I'll try and have a go at it, Take a 3/8 - 5/8 bull/grey dog over a 3/8 - 5/8 leghorn/grey bitch. Now for the puppies there 3/8 bull blood total, So devide that in half = 3/16. There 5/8 grey in the cross twice, once from the dog, once from the bitch, take half on that which is 5/8. That leaves 3/8 leghorn devided in half = 3/16. This leaves you with a pup that is 3/16 bull, 5/8 greyhound, 3/16 leghorn. Not enough leghorn to lay eggs, but enough that they can really fly.

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Ah, now example time, a 3/8th 5/8th bull greyhound mated to a 3/8th 5/8th wheaton greyhound would produce...3/8th Bull. 3/8th Wheaton and 10/16th greyhound :tongue2:

 

wrong simoman that would be a 3/16th bul 3/16th weaton and 10/16th greyhound

 

 

Smart arse, you know what I meant :icon_redface:

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Ah, now example time, a 3/8th 5/8th bull greyhound mated to a 3/8th 5/8th wheaton greyhound would produce...3/8th Bull. 3/8th Wheaton and 10/16th greyhound :tongue2:

 

wrong simoman that would be a 3/16th bul 3/16th weaton and 10/16th greyhound

 

 

Smart arse, you know what I meant :icon_redface:

 

Think you better hold on to Carol Voderman's number mate :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Ah, now example time, a 3/8th 5/8th bull greyhound mated to a 3/8th 5/8th wheaton greyhound would produce...3/8th Bull. 3/8th Wheaton and 10/16th greyhound :tongue2:

 

wrong simoman that would be a 3/16th bul 3/16th weaton and 10/16th greyhound

 

 

Smart arse, you know what I meant :icon_redface:

 

Think you better hold on to Carol Voderman's number mate :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:clapper: :clapper:

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I'm rubbish at maths so you could say that is why I don't worry about this or that percentage, but seriously though: does it really matter? Genes don't 'do' maths either do they!

 

I remember talking to a bloke at a show once: he had a stupendously superb (not enough eadjectives in the dictionary to describe the look of this dog!) lurcher. Basically it was Bull/Whippet/Greyhound, but line bred over years and years: he himself had lost count of what percentage of this or that there was, but he did say that it was the first one in over 16 years breeding that had perfect conformation and had the seemingly perfect combination of genes from all 3 breeds.

 

At the end of the day once you've gone away from 1st and 2nd cross then anything can happen, and saying that the dog is 1/8 Collie, 4/8 Bull, 1/8 Whippet and 4/8 Grey means sweet f.a. once the pups are on the ground: it all depends which way they throw doesn't it?

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I'm rubbish at maths so you could say that is why I don't worry about this or that percentage, but seriously though: does it really matter? Genes don't 'do' maths either do they!

 

I remember talking to a bloke at a show once: he had a stupendously superb (not enough eadjectives in the dictionary to describe the look of this dog!) lurcher. Basically it was Bull/Whippet/Greyhound, but line bred over years and years: he himself had lost count of what percentage of this or that there was, but he did say that it was the first one in over 16 years breeding that had perfect conformation and had the seemingly perfect combination of genes from all 3 breeds.

 

At the end of the day once you've gone away from 1st and 2nd cross then anything can happen, and saying that the dog is 1/8 Collie, 4/8 Bull, 1/8 Whippet and 4/8 Grey means sweet f.a. once the pups are on the ground: it all depends which way they throw doesn't it?

 

 

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I'll pm you Carol Vodermans number :clapper:

 

 

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: nice one!

 

 

You bawbag the guy had you going there. :cry: .catcher

 

 

What you on about? your on the cider early this morning.....

 

 

Iam just in from work.You pen pusher. :drink:

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