plummer Terriers

[stormyboy 1,352]

THATS THE STUFF!!! Sorry-had to reply to that one!

[dumbo 0]

To be honest I couldn't give a toss about reasons for the oc. nor can I give a toss about what is and what isn't produced as a result of it. It has been done and in the past. Can't be changed. Why can't we concentrate on what can be done for the future instead of going over the same old. Glenn I believe I have asked you before if you are man enough. Are you man enough to forget about the age old situation and actually start concentrating on using your knowledge to benefit the breed as a whole? Instead of using what you know to prove people wrong all the time?

 

You can ignore this/me. Fine by me... The above question has been asked many a time and I believe the answer is probably no you are not able.

[Cleanspade 3,324]

i have also another bitch that is outcross she has a higher percentage bull in her so is on the big side . but does go to ground and has bolted a few foxes for me now and been dug to a few times. all above board ind in acordance with the law. gotta say i'm looking forward to the coming season.

 

saxon sassy

 

[jimb 30]

a sister to barks dog Pinsley Ace. Pinsley Amber. hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

she is just below the 12 inch. done very little as yet

JUST RABBITS

[poacher3161 1,766]

Just out of quiryosity [bANNED TEXT] was the rough coat bred out of these terriers as a lad who i know had terriers of plummer in the 70s they were rough coated and game as hell.atb

[samba 534]

had a plummer bitch for over ten yrs smoth coated but her brother was rough coated

but my bitch bred rough coated pups in a few of her litters these were by c prices mask

she also had a litter to plummers nine the bull outcross before he got his hands on it

a lad on here as one of these

[Cleanspade 3,324]

JUST RABBITS. you got me sussed

[sharp_shooter_sam 0]

i wont say so mate i dont know anyone who dose and i have never heard anyone who has dug to one.

my mates plumber was out digging every other day for nearly 6 year before the ban and that dog never let him down.

his is after another one soon.

 

is this dog still about sharp shooter. ?

 

Dont know mate, I will have to get back to you about it. I know he gave it away to be 'retired' but it was still worked a bit.

Why do you ask?

Regards,

Sam

[Cleanspade 3,324]

i wont say so mate i dont know anyone who dose and i have never heard anyone who has dug to one.

my mates plumber was out digging every other day for nearly 6 year before the ban and that dog never let him down.

his is after another one soon.

 

is this dog still about sharp shooter. ?

 

Dont know mate, I will have to get back to you about it. I know he gave it away to be 'retired' but it was still worked a bit.

Why do you ask?

Regards,

Sam

 

just being nosey mate. glad to hear there are some good dogs to be found

[AMADORE 5]

Quote "The last bull outcross was introduced primarily to eradicate dimorphism that was rife-weak snipy headed bitches "

....what was the result we have seen loads of reasonable males ...which plummers have plenty of anyway...but what about the bitches from the outcross lot.

 

Pinsley ace sisters etc...have we any photos to see if the outcross blood has improved them to warrant and justify the outcrossing.

 

ps. stormyboy what dogs did you decline to register?

there are some very tidy looking bitches from the o.c. out there,have an UNBIASED LOOK.

 

My dogs were Rupert bred plus a little Lucy , San and pip. according to your percentages should not be too good? very homozygous strangely!

percentages are all very well but as im sure you know, when breeding animals of any sort, they dont always follow the rules.

No more now thanks-the thread is heading for the usual slanging match that these things end up as.

 

 

Well sorry but i certainly cant remember talking to any of the main breeders bar CP to register his dogs who declined saying he wanted to outcross, in time and there was no further debate on that whith him.

[AMADORE 5]

a sister to barks dog Pinsley Ace. Pinsley Amber. hope this helps.

 

 

 

 

she is just below the 12 inch. done very little as yet

 

Well looks the part tho in my eyes well over 12inches. and athletic. must say that there is more than a little purebred blood there somewhere.

[poacher3161 1,766]

had a plummer bitch for over ten yrs smoth coated but her brother was rough coated

but my bitch bred rough coated pups in a few of her litters these were by c prices mask

she also had a litter to plummers nine the bull outcross before he got his hands on it

a lad on here as one of these

I believe the dogs my mate had were out of hellion [bANNED TEXT] plummer was teaching up here a mate from london had a dog called jasper out of them i wonderd if these dogs were is foundation stock.atvb

[steviemann 5]

Come on, does anyone HONESTLY use them for regular digging ?

 

For F*CKS Sake!!! Foxfan, only asked is there any people on here that dig to PLUMMERS REGULARY???? Just answer the lad an put some pictures up. Some right D*KS ON HERE!!!! %%%%%%%%% PERCENTAGE MAD. . . :sick: :sick:

You did the same as I, opened A HUGE CAN OF WORMS

[AMADORE 5]

To be honest I couldn't give a toss about reasons for the oc. nor can I give a toss about what is and what isn't produced as a result of it. It has been done and in the past. Can't be changed. Why can't we concentrate on what can be done for the future instead of going over the same old. Glenn I believe I have asked you before if you are man enough. Are you man enough to forget about the age old situation and actually start concentrating on using your knowledge to benefit the breed as a whole? Instead of using what you know to prove people wrong all the time?

 

You can ignore this/me. Fine by me... The above question has been asked many a time and I believe the answer is probably no you are not able.

 

Its not a case of proving anyone wrong Dan just pointing out the facts , to the general public.

 

 

"Are you man enough to forget about the age old situation and actually start concentrating on using your knowledge to benefit the breed as a whole? Instead of using what you know to prove people wrong all the time?"

 

Before your time Dan which is not so long ago my pride was swallowed for the sake of the breed but was kicked yet again in the teeth. As far as being man enough..remember you bit our fingers to the tune of (£176.00!)

 

I have and there is no need to concentrate on using my knowledge blah blah blah FOR YOU Dan things seem fine over here ..its those outsiders that hate authority that seem to bleating about problems .Sort your own mess out or obey the club rules if you can !!..the clubs PTA and the EPTS seem ok to me ...but then again your not part of any are you, due to your back door moves and dishonesty...so i personally would be very foolish to again lay down with your ilk fine some other mug to sort your mess out.

 

Its up to club members of the PTA and the EPTS to talk with there cooperation things will move for the better..but those who whinge like you on the outside do nothing to help at all.

 

But thats politics dan Im not here for your thoughts and views on politics .. i was i believe correcting a statement that I considered to be wrong about dimorphism that man seems to have gone very quite on that subject so i presume my point has hit home ...the outcross wasn't used to eradicate some form of dimorphismand hasn't as the above pics prove.

[AMADORE 5]

i have also another bitch that is outcross she has a higher percentage bull in her so is on the big side . but does go to ground and has bolted a few foxes for me now and been dug to a few times. all above board ind in acordance with the law. gotta say i'm looking forward to the coming season.

 

saxon sassy

 

 

 

Saxon sassy ??? looks like my bitch sam shoda x dumbo on longer legs....bet that can run like the wind ...does it have any Lynley pepsi blood in it ?? as she has a distinct look of a bicth i worked once over...especily the coat pattern.