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[Guest Scuba1]

and i was more accturate without my scope than i wa with it as my scope was complely bust . i was jsut surprised by how accurate it was even without a scope.

 

PM sent mate

[Sterry 0]

I agree although, i do consider myslef one of the "young lads" (im 17), if the young people on this forum wish to bikker then is their away of keeping it in the young persons bit of the forum (as long as it doesnt demote our sport/way of life, in which case it should be deleted immeadiatly, same said if they are older), but if they wish to seek advise then i know almost everyone on here will be willing to offer it to them.

 

also agree its all the same suspects.

[Ron Weasley 83]

I think it was put there (and I am sure ron will correct me if I am wrong) because, if you were to be investigated for shooting pidgeons in your back garden, you reason of "to protect crops" would not stand up against the law as when in your garden they are not damaging any crops.

 

That I think would be the reason for your quote being included.

 

Does that makes sense? If not I will try to explain better.

 

ATB

 

Freddy

 

Basically Freddy, yes.

 

Aaron, I didn't intend this to be all about your posts, they were just two recent examples that came to mind to illustrate my points.

 

Let me just explain a bit of the law to you, so you understand what my point is.

 

Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, ALL wild birds are protected. Each year, DEFRA issue a general license which allows pest birds to be taken by authorised persons. Pigeons are definitely on this list, but you need to be clear that whenever you shoot any birds other than game birds or wildfowl in season, you're shooting under the terms of the general license, which, to all intents and purposes, says there has to be good reason for you to shoot them.

 

I'm almost certain that everyone shooting pigeons in their gardens are complying with the terms of the general license, and I do not, by any stretch of the imagination, think that people should stop shooting pigeons in their gardens. I'm merely pointing out that before you post, you should perhaps be a little bit more aware of these things.

 

I'm very sorry if this seems patronising, that's not intended at all. I freely admit, that when I was your age, I had no idea whatsoever about the general license, but the internet wasn't quite what it is today then, so I didn't have opportunity to make comments like yours.

 

And yes, shooting pigeons in your garden to protect your vegetables is a perfectly acceptable reason.

 

You've had two guys offer to help you out through PMs/MSN already in this thread, and you can definitely add me to that list.

 

Again, I just want to make clear that the purpose of this thread isn't to get at you, it's just to ask the younger members of the forum to take a bit of time to think about what they post.

[hiho 5]

why is all the dirt being dug on me?

cos of your hair

[Guest hyperion]

i have to admit id stopped using the airgun section of THL simply because of all the crap being posted but this thread has gone some way to restoring my faith!

 

i might even start posting in here again!

 

maybe some of us older members should have a rummage around and find some old john darling articals to transcribe on to THL for the younger members to read?

 

cheers

hyperion

[Ron Weasley 83]

i have to admit id stopped using the airgun section of THL simply because of all the crap being posted but this thread has gone some way to restoring my faith!

 

i might even start posting in here again!

 

maybe some of us older members should have a rummage around and find some old john darling articals to transcribe on to THL for the younger members to read?

 

cheers

hyperion

 

That's an excellent idea hyperion. Unfortunately not 6 months ago, all my old magazines went to magazine heaven. (Or as it's generally known, the local recylcling centre). I'd certainly be interested to read some of John Darling's articles if anybody can dig some out and take the time to put them up!

[Malt 379]

why is all the dirt being dug on me?

cos of your hair

Not being funny hiho, but you are one of the main offenders!

 

It's high time that things were sorted in here, not just with the younger members either. There was a time when the banter was great in here, it was the best section on the site.

 

Far too many over opinionated posters in here these days, along with the messers. Manners cost nothing, if you don't agree with something, then fine speak out, but do it in a polite & respectful way.

 

We're all airgun hunters at the end of the day, and should pull together. Debate is good, silly petty arguing & piss taking is not.

[Guest hyperion]

i have to admit id stopped using the airgun section of THL simply because of all the crap being posted but this thread has gone some way to restoring my faith!

 

i might even start posting in here again!

 

maybe some of us older members should have a rummage around and find some old john darling articals to transcribe on to THL for the younger members to read?

 

cheers

hyperion

 

That's an excellent idea hyperion. Unfortunately not 6 months ago, all my old magazines went to magazine heaven. (Or as it's generally known, the local recylcling centre). I'd certainly be interested to read some of John Darling's articles if anybody can dig some out and take the time to put them up!

 

J.D was a airgunning god and a true gent! i kick myself all the time for not keeping my old mags!

 

ill have a look on the web and see if i can find some of his articles to put up!

 

cheers

hyperion

[RaiderBoy 19]

why is all the dirt being dug on me?

 

It is not ........ but you have to admit, that with most people here getting the gear up to scratch and spending a lot of money for it at times, then you going the other way and discard the sights that you have on your gun all together is a bit strange.

We should always try to do the best we can and kill as humanely as possible and some sort of sights will help to do that, so taking them of is a step in the wrong direction.

 

Have a think about it and we can discuss this via PM or MSN if you like. I am willing to take the time for that.

 

ATB

 

Michael

 

 

I think it was put there (and I am sure ron will correct me if I am wrong) because, if you were to be investigated for shooting pidgeons in your back garden, you reason of "to protect crops" would not stand up against the law as when in your garden they are not damaging any crops.

 

That I think would be the reason for your quote being included.

 

Does that makes sense? If not I will try to explain better.

 

ATB

 

Freddy

 

Basically Freddy, yes.

 

Aaron, I didn't intend this to be all about your posts, they were just two recent examples that came to mind to illustrate my points.

 

Let me just explain a bit of the law to you, so you understand what my point is.

 

Under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981, ALL wild birds are protected. Each year, DEFRA issue a general license which allows pest birds to be taken by authorised persons. Pigeons are definitely on this list, but you need to be clear that whenever you shoot any birds other than game birds or wildfowl in season, you're shooting under the terms of the general license, which, to all intents and purposes, says there has to be good reason for you to shoot them.

 

I'm almost certain that everyone shooting pigeons in their gardens are complying with the terms of the general license, and I do not, by any stretch of the imagination, think that people should stop shooting pigeons in their gardens. I'm merely pointing out that before you post, you should perhaps be a little bit more aware of these things.

 

I'm very sorry if this seems patronising, that's not intended at all. I freely admit, that when I was your age, I had no idea whatsoever about the general license, but the internet wasn't quite what it is today then, so I didn't have opportunity to make comments like yours.

 

And yes, shooting pigeons in your garden to protect your vegetables is a perfectly acceptable reason.

 

You've had two guys offer to help you out through PMs/MSN already in this thread, and you can definitely add me to that list.

 

Again, I just want to make clear that the purpose of this thread isn't to get at you, it's just to ask the younger members of the forum to take a bit of time to think about what they post.

would you mind if i sent a pm if i need help ? because i have made a few threads now that are sensible questions but have had no replies the latest one was how to adjust the trigger on my gun i know a few people have webley raiders on this site but have not been willing to help.

[RaiderBoy 19]

i have to admit id stopped using the airgun section of THL simply because of all the crap being posted but this thread has gone some way to restoring my faith!

 

i might even start posting in here again!

 

maybe some of us older members should have a rummage around and find some old john darling articals to transcribe on to THL for the younger members to read?

 

cheers

hyperion

 

That's an excellent idea hyperion. Unfortunately not 6 months ago, all my old magazines went to magazine heaven. (Or as it's generally known, the local recylcling centre). I'd certainly be interested to read some of John Darling's articles if anybody can dig some out and take the time to put them up!

 

J.D was a airgunning god and a true gent! i kick myself all the time for not keeping my old mags!

 

ill have a look on the web and see if i can find some of his articles to put up!

 

cheers

hyperion

 

if you find them can you pm me the site please or put it up as a link

[Guest hyperion]

having trouble with finding any thing on J.D keep getting loads of scam sites and spy ware! grrrrrrr

[Freddy Watts 1]

Yes you can PM whenever you like RaiderBoy. However I wil say now that I know nothing at all about the triggers on a webley raider so I won't be able to help with that. Maybe it was just that there was no one there to help at the time. Give the thread a bump so people see it and see what answers you get.

 

Freddy

[Simoman 110]

A fellow mod is keeping an eye on this section and anymore stupidity will see warning levels and three day bans enorced.............for starters.............

[Ron Weasley 83]

A fellow mod is keeping an eye on this section and anymore stupidity will see warning levels and three day bans enorced.............for starters.............

 

Nice one Simoman. I hope this thread hasn't been taken in the wrong way by anybody. My intention wasn't to offend anyone- mods or the younger guys.

[Simoman 110]

A fellow mod is keeping an eye on this section and anymore stupidity will see warning levels and three bans enorced.............for starters.............

 

Nice one Simoman. I hope this thread hasn't been taken in the wrong way by anybody. My intention wasn't to offend anyone- mods or the younger guys.

 

Not at all, we need help from the members to monitor whats going on, its a big forum