Ron Weasley 83 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I'll draw your attention to this thread http://www.thehuntinglife.com/forums/index...showtopic=94849 for a start, but generally the airgun forum has become a playground. I have nothing against the younger guys per se, but I do very much object to the know-all attitude of some of them, and the arguing between them. It's not entertaining, and it certainly does nothing to promote our sport. Maybe a bit drastic, but could we have some kind of sub-forum for the younger guys? Or something just to tidy the place up a bit? I appreciate that this may sound a bit much, but between obsenities being thrown around, kids talking of taking pot shots without any sights at rats to 'immobilise' them- and little gems like this: theres nothing worng with shooting in your backgarden!!! pigeons are a major agricultural pest and need to be controlled everywhere - we're all being tarred with the same ill informed brush, and it makes me, and I dare say many others feel very uncomfortable. NB- I don't have any problems with shooting pigeons in back gardens, but I think everybody should be aware of the terms of the General License before they give advice. Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) I agree. It's great to see all the younger members on here. I wish I had air rifles when I was their age. But it is true something needs to be done about all the petty arguing and all the stupid posts being put up. I'm not suggesting anything too drastic, but a few warnings here and there might just put it in perspective for them. I have moderated and admined a few different forums and know what a hard and time consuming job it is, but unfortunately it has to be done so that our sport is shown in the right light. We don't want the crazy ideas and misinformed comments of a few people to jeopardise our sport and stop it from being seen as the essential part of life and conservation that it is. And be nice people, if someone says something that you don't like or is just plain wrong them inform them and teach them what is right. Stop being abusive and help to educate those less well informed than yourself. Help to give them and others a good (and true) view of air gunning and a good view of this forum as a friendly environment in which to learn and to share our stories and knowledge. Edited April 11, 2009 by Freddy Watts Quote Link to post
Timelord 0 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Looks like the usual suspects at it again Ron well said Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) I don't think that a sub forum for the younger people is the answer, because if they are just among themselves, they are not going to learn a lot and then the bickering in that sub forum will start among other things. My suggestion would be, that some of the older ( and one would wish more mature ) people have to stop getting there knickers in a twist at every opportunity and stop slagging the younger ones of at every chance they get in order to " profile " themselves. So before one hits the " ADD REPLY " button have another read through what you have written and have a think back to the times when you where younger and then think how you would have reacted if some supposedly " grown up " person jumped in your face like some do on here do. Some people just overshoot the mark at times. Remember that everyone has to start somewhere and and instead of harsh critics and slagging, try giving the ones with less experience a helping hand. You will feel so much better afterwards. In my book there is no such thing as a stupid question. As for stupid answers....................well....................more then enough Lets just guide and help the new and young ones as they are the future of our way of life Just my two pence worth. ATB Michael Edited April 11, 2009 by Scuba1 Quote Link to post
sounder 9 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 i have to agree with you scuba as to sorting this matter i looking in to it, as i am the new kid on the block and are going to seek the other mods knowledge cheers sounder Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Worth more than 2 pence i think Scuba. Well at least there are a few like minded members on here anyway. Those who don't want to see younger members being given a hard time. Yes they will make mistakes and do silly things but it would seem that so do some of the more mature (well aged anyway) members. So lets try to help those people who make mistakes to understand why their mistake was wrong and show them how to do it right. And lets stop just hurling abuse at them until they leave and go and get themselves into trouble for doing something wrong. Something that we could have helped them avoid by being the helpful and kind people that most of us are. We have alot of knowledge between the members of this forum, both young and old, so lets use it to educate others and not to look down on those who are less well informed ourselves. Thats my second 2 pence worth so I currently stand on 4p. I hope this does not cost me too much. Cheers Freddy Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 that statement i made on shooting in your nback garden, why have you brught that up? i dont see anything wromg with shooting to protect crops! Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 and the staement on shooting rats, i am sayin that if you shoot a rat in its back end then it most certainly won't die straight away and probebly won't immobalize it . if you shoot it in its font end the it will nearly always kill it quickly and if not then always immobelize it so you can run up and dispatch it as quickly as possible. and i was very accurate without a cope on my gun even thought it dosent have iron sigths. i could hit a 2" square 4/5 times at 10 yards Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I think it was put there (and I am sure ron will correct me if I am wrong) because, if you were to be investigated for shooting pidgeons in your back garden, you reason of "to protect crops" would not stand up against the law as when in your garden they are not damaging any crops. That I think would be the reason for your quote being included. Does that makes sense? If not I will try to explain better. ATB Freddy Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 why is all the dirt being dug on me? Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 and the staement on shooting rats, i am sayin that if you shoot a rat in its back end then it most certainly won't die straight away and probebly won't immobalize it . if you shoot it in its font end the it will nearly always kill it quickly and if not then always immobelize it so you can run up and dispatch it as quickly as possible. and i was very accurate without a cope on my gun even thought it dosent have iron sigths. i could hit a 2" square 4/5 times at 10 yards Aaron mate I don't think this is the place to bring this up not after the arguements of last time anyway. What we are saying here is that people who suggest things such as using a gun without a scope should have it explain to them why it is wrong rather than just being shouted at and abused. If you want to know why what you said was not a good idea I suggest that the conversation is continued in your thread and not here, as the last thing we need here is another arguement thread. That make sense? Freddy Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 why is all the dirt being dug on me? It is not ........ but you have to admit, that with most people here getting the gear up to scratch and spending a lot of money for it at times, then you going the other way and discard the sights that you have on your gun all together is a bit strange. We should always try to do the best we can and kill as humanely as possible and some sort of sights will help to do that, so taking them of is a step in the wrong direction. Have a think about it and we can discuss this via PM or MSN if you like. I am willing to take the time for that. ATB Michael Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 I am always willing to help aswell. PM me if ya need something and Scuba is not about. Scuba knows what he is about so listen to his advice. Freddy Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 ok. but i hae a very large garden (more a sort of field) and i have a very big patch of cabbage wich the pigeons eat . would me shooting them be valid as protection for crops? Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 and i was more accturate without my scope than i wa with it as my scope was complely bust . i was jsut surprised by how accurate it was even without a scope. Quote Link to post
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