im going to need help deciding what rifle to get

[shottyscotty 3]

hopefully ill be getting my fac soon and was wondering what 22lr and 223 rifles are quite cheap but good and look nice as i do like to get nice looking rifles... any help would be great and im not really wanting to spend over 450 on the 22 and 600 on the 223 if possible

 

 

pics would be nice

Edited April 10, 2009 by shottyscotty

[Mr_Logic 5]

You're using the 22 for rabbits and the 223 for foxes?

 

Well for the 22 I'm not sure at the moment, basically something that goes bang should work.

 

223, well CZ 527 is my choice, or a Remington of some description. My CZ cost me £410 (but that was before these price increases), and weighs sod all, but is accurate (1/2 to 3/4 MOA) and reliable. My Remington is a tad heavy for field work as it's an SPS Tactical, but it shoots 1/2MOA and isn't ammo fussy.

 

Bear in mind with 223 for fox work, that ideally you will want good optics for it, and they're likely to cost as much as the rifle, so if I were you I would budget about £1400 for the complete kit. There's no point in buying a sporting centrefire without decent optics, as you will only get a fraction of the enjoyment. I learned the hard way - don't make the mistake!

 

My overall choice for 223 is:

 

CZ527 American £600 (you could substitute Tikka T3, Remington SPS here, same sort of price and will do the same sort of job. I like CZs as their mini-Mauser design is properly made without cut corners)

Bushnell Elite 4200 or Nikon Monarch scope £400-odd

ASE JetZ CQB moderator £300

Bipod £100

Scope mounts £50

TOTAL £1450

 

You're going to be thinking, "How do I bring that price down?"

 

Answer is you don't... Save up! I have swapped rifles around so much it's silly, trying to save money here and there. But you can't. Centrefire is very expensive, so just be prepared!

 

You will get a lot of people saying you can cut corners with the scope, and a lot of people do. I've tried a lot of £200-odd scopes, and spent a lot more than if I'd just bought decent kit to start with. You'd beat my scope choice handsomely by adding another £500 and buying Swarovski, but I don't think you *need* to get that...

[shottyscotty 3]

You're using the 22 for rabbits and the 223 for foxes?

 

Well for the 22 I'm not sure at the moment, basically something that goes bang should work.

 

223, well CZ 527 is my choice, or a Remington of some description. My CZ cost me £410 (but that was before these price increases), and weighs sod all, but is accurate (1/2 to 3/4 MOA) and reliable. My Remington is a tad heavy for field work as it's an SPS Tactical, but it shoots 1/2MOA and isn't ammo fussy.

 

Bear in mind with 223 for fox work, that ideally you will want good optics for it, and they're likely to cost as much as the rifle, so if I were you I would budget about £1400 for the complete kit. There's no point in buying a sporting centrefire without decent optics, as you will only get a fraction of the enjoyment. I learned the hard way - don't make the mistake!

 

My overall choice for 223 is:

 

CZ527 American £600 (you could substitute Tikka T3, Remington SPS here, same sort of price and will do the same sort of job. I like CZs as their mini-Mauser design is properly made without cut corners)

Bushnell Elite 4200 or Nikon Monarch scope £400-odd

ASE JetZ CQB moderator £300

Bipod £100

Scope mounts £50

TOTAL £1450

 

You're going to be thinking, "How do I bring that price down?"

 

Answer is you don't... Save up! I have swapped rifles around so much it's silly, trying to save money here and there. But you can't. Centrefire is very expensive, so just be prepared!

 

You will get a lot of people saying you can cut corners with the scope, and a lot of people do. I've tried a lot of £200-odd scopes, and spent a lot more than if I'd just bought decent kit to start with. You'd beat my scope choice handsomely by adding another £500 and buying Swarovski, but I don't think you *need* to get that...

thanxs for the info it helped a lot .. i have got a good scope already for my 22 and my estate is going to help pay for the 308 and scope witch is good

[gossy 3]

hi buddy without a doubt for your 22lr slot you want to go for the cz they give alot of options styles and offer great value for money.

 

223, i would say same as mr logic go for a cz or a remington. but also consider howa. they do a varmint or sporting model very accurate and nice and cheap.

 

atb. gossy.

[speedystu 0]

"" czbrno for the 22 and a tikka t3 for the 223.. well thats what i use and never had any probs. best of luck ss..

[nightstalkeruk 0]

Cz for the 22 and you cant do bad with a Howa varmint 223 nice bit of kit for the price and you get the lot in a package deal (ie scope and mod)

 

i've got the 223 howa in Varmint and it drops the foxes just like the rest ...

 

NS