Guest Scuba1 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) after getting back from Spain two Days ago and a dead BMW ( Cylinder head cracked on the last 100 miles ) , I decided to treat myself to a new gun to cheer me up a bit. I was going to get one in .177 but that would have been my first one in that calibre and at the last second I chickened out and went for the .22 carbine version. Just sticking to what I am used to I guess. So walked into the local gun shop that I have not set foot in for 27 years and it was like going back in time. Nothing has changed in there at all apart from the fishing gear looked a bit more modern then I could remember. Well that and the blokes behind the counter looked a bit older too. But still familiar faces non the less and the same friendly atmosphere as in the old days. After a bit of a chat I tried the 200 and did not like the feel of it at all. It just did not fit me and then I had a look at the 410 classic but that was not quite right either but when I picked up the 410 carbine it just stuck to me and was a perfect fit. Then came the chicken bit and I went for the .22 instead of the .177. I bought a gun slip for it to and 2 tins of air Arms field pellets plus an adapter for my dive bottle to charge it up. During the talk that I had with the old one of the two in the shop, he told me, that before they put any gun in the cabinet for sale they give it a once over as far as the trigger and that goes and run it over a chrono as well and if need be, tweak it a bit. After getting home, I put my sights on it and adjusted them to my liking. Zeroing the gun took all of 3 shots and then I had a little knock about with it in the garden and I was very impressed with it. At 30 meters it was a doddle, to shoot 5 shot groups that could be covered with a one cent coin. ( have to get some English money ) With the last three shots I took the nail out that held the target on the board. That left a smile on my face as well. So all in all, this gun is the best performing one that I have had so far and I did not have to adjust a thing on it to be comfortable with it. All I need to do now is find some permission or a friendly person that will let me tag along with them on theirs. I may even get a lamp for it as well. Now I have never had a bipod for any of my guns but this thing is so accurate that it will outperform my shooting abilities and I am thinking of getting one of them as well, but I don't want to upset the balance of the gun, so I am in two minds about that one as I get small enough groups for clean kills and am not a bench rest kind of shooter even though it would be nice to try out how accurate that little gun really is. In the next few days the pigeons, squirrels and company are going to have a hard time getting out of my garden when getting in is so easy. I know that for most of you this is nothing new, but having lived in the sticks as far as air guns are concerned, for me this is a huge step forward in air gun shooting. ATB and happy hunting Michael Edited April 9, 2009 by Scuba1 Quote Link to post
andy s410c 59 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 Welcome to the club Sc1 The 410c is a good working gun,i can't fault mine...it only misses because i pull the trigger ...sometimes.The only other PCP i owned was a R7 Tyrolean in the mid 90's another fantastic gun but i would'nt swap for my 410c now...for me the handling & weight of the 410c is a lot better for me.Enjoy shooting it Quote Link to post
davyt63 1,845 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 hi mike try filling to 160 bar this takes out most of the power curve on the .22 and the take your 5 shots. i have found that if i fill to 160 bar and don't go under 105/100bar that this is my rifles sweet point, i had pellet on pellet @ 30 yds when i took the pellets out of the MDF you could clearly see each one of 5 i had shot all in a 10mm square on a target i designed.where are you based? now your back in the UK hope this helps buddy happy hunting davy Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) hi mike try filling to 160 bar this takes out most of the power curve on the .22 and the take your 5 shots. i have found that if i fill to 160 bar and don't go under 105/100bar that this is my rifles sweet point, i had pellet on pellet @ 30 yds when i took the pellets out of the MDF you could clearly see each one of 5 i had shot all in a 10mm square on a target i designed.where are you based? now your back in the UK hope this helps buddy happy hunting davy At the moment I am in Colchester but in a week or so I will move to Brightlingsea Essex. I filled mine to 180 bar and then shot it down to about 110 and there where no flyers or drop as was just kneeling, I know that i could get the groups down a lot smaller if I was to use a bipod or something to rest the gun on and may just move the table to the back of the gaden and put some sand bags on it to try it out. First some of those pigeons will have to get out of the way though . Thanks for the tip ATB Michael Edited April 10, 2009 by Scuba1 Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 i thought the s200 whas a good gun and is what i'm saving up for? Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 i thought the s200 whas a good gun and is what i'm saving up for? It is aaron, but it just did not fit me and felt uncomfortable in my hands so I left it. Having said that, I am 6"4 and have rather long arms so I was surprised that the carbine of the 410 felt so well balanced for me as it is a bit on the short side. But it felt better then the classic and so I went for it. There is not much point in buying a gun just for the looks of it if it does not feel right in ones hands and this one just had all the boxes ticked for me. ATB Michael P.s. The only downside of it is I think the bluing but that will be ok with an extra bit of care and oil to stop the rust. Quote Link to post
willow1 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 hi mike try filling to 160 bar this takes out most of the power curve on the .22 and the take your 5 shots. i have found that if i fill to 160 bar and don't go under 105/100bar that this is my rifles sweet point, i had pellet on pellet @ 30 yds when i took the pellets out of the MDF you could clearly see each one of 5 i had shot all in a 10mm square on a target i designed.where are you based? now your back in the UK hope this helps buddy happy hunting davy Hi I just had my S410 Combine filled for the 1st time and had it done at 200 Bar, not knowing much about these at present, would 160B be better ? Cheers Ian Quote Link to post
Guest buster321c Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Nice one Scuba , AirArms , can`t go wrong buddy , enjoy Quote Link to post
nasher1 258 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 hi mike try filling to 160 bar this takes out most of the power curve on the .22 and the take your 5 shots. i have found that if i fill to 160 bar and don't go under 105/100bar that this is my rifles sweet point, i had pellet on pellet @ 30 yds when i took the pellets out of the MDF you could clearly see each one of 5 i had shot all in a 10mm square on a target i designed.where are you based? now your back in the UK hope this helps buddy happy hunting davy Hi I just had my S410 Combine filled for the 1st time and had it done at 200 Bar, not knowing much about these at present, would 160B be better ? Cheers Ian The hand book which comes with the gun states 190 bar max fill pressure except when testing after a service when it should be tested to 200 bar, I fill mine to 170 bar shoot down to about 110-120 I find the shots between these pressures are the most consistant, personally I dont think it would be a good practice to keep filling it to 200 Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I don't think I have heard a bad review on any Air Arms gun recently. They must be doing something right. I am growing to like the 410 more and mre by the second. Cheers for the review Scuba. ATB Freddy Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I don't think I have heard a bad review on any Air Arms gun recently. They must be doing something right.I am growing to like the 410 more and mre by the second. Cheers for the review Scuba. ATB Freddy Well it was not much of a review so far, but when I have put a few hundred more pellets through it I may just type my thoughts in another thread. Havig said that, I don't think that there is much need for it because of all the people that have had them for so much longer and have not written a lot of bad stuff about them. On another note, Magpies and pigeons find it just as easy to get in to my garden now as pre 410. However getting back out is a whole different ball game. Thank you for your comments. Michael P.s. I am not going to post pictures of the birds that did not make it back out of the garden, as I don't want to start another slagging match about " garden sniping" and JD must still be sobbing about the last pigeon that has faced its maker on a bird feeding table Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Good plan mate. But keep up the good work. I havn't got a bird table anyway and I would like to see a woody try and eat from one of the hanging nut feeders we have. Let us know your thoughts on it anyway. I am definately looking at one for when I get my next rifle. Cheers Freddy Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 As I am restricted to 36 mtr's at the moment ( that's the diagonal of my garden ) I would not like to make a comprehensive statement here but that being said, I just had a go with it with a table in front of me to rest my forearm on and put ten pellets in the same hole ( a bit ragged ) but one hole none the less and that is plenty accurate enough for any hunting scenario that you could come across. I am using Air Arms Field pellets " the domed ones" and they seem to pack a bit of a punch to at that distance. So far all things are good with the only downside being the bluing is my book. If it fits you and you are half as comfortable with it as I am ....... its money well worth spending.IMHO of course. ATB Michael Quote Link to post
aaronpigeonplucker 32 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 theres nothing worng with shooting in your backgarden!!! pigeons are a major agricultural pest and need to be controlled everywhere, and magpies well i dont really have anyhting against magpies as they are regular visitors in my ggarnden and i styill have plenty of songbirsd Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) theres nothing worng with shooting in your backgarden!!! pigeons are a major agricultural pest and need to be controlled everywhere, and magpies well i dont really have anyhting against magpies as they are regular visitors in my ggarnden and i styill have plenty of songbirsd I know that aaron but I for one would not want to kick of another thread like the one we just had. It is not going to stop me doing it ...... I am just not going to post any pics. But i would like to go out and test it in the field. But unfortunately I don't have a permission where I can go to or transport for that matter. So that will have to wait for a while I think. ATB Michael Edited April 10, 2009 by Scuba1 Quote Link to post
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