andyfr1968 772 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Thanks, fellas. This is what I'd hoped for the first time round! It's good to know what folks are useing and why. Cheers! Quote Link to post
camies 1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I was out lamping with an owner of a new Daystate. one with the electronic trigger gizmo. It was raining loads, really chucking it down. We quit (surprisingly enough) so before getting back into the car, we discharged our rifles (mine a Harrier) but he had a problem it would not fire! Went home and stripped both guns down cleaning the wet off and putting the parts into the airing cupboard. Next day, his rifle functioned ok. He emailed Daystate, no reply. Next week out we went again. It rained (Weather must really hate us!) and halfway round the field he lined up on a rabbit but no discharge. Back home again, dry the rifles, airing cupboard, etc & next morning ok. Phone call to Daystate and the rifle went away via the gunshop for "investigation". Came back promptly and was fine until - - - - you guessed it , it got wet. Morel of the story, electronics and rain don't work! Good news was he got his money back as rifle "unfit for purpose" sales of goods act, etc!!!! Quote Link to post
Freddy Watts 1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Personally I love the idea behind the new technological rifles. The Airwolf MVT to name the current technology leader. But I think that i would spend a few days fiddling with all the new little gadgets until i found a setting that I liked and there it would stay never to be changed again. I do like the idea of the built in shot counter and chrono though but again not essential just another toy. From where I stand it seems to depend on what you are in to. FT shooters will love the tech as fits in with their spot well. For those of us out hunting we need to have as little to go wrong as possible so technology often looses out to practicality. Saying that, if someone offered me and MVT I wouldn't turn it down, just wouldn't buy one myself. Sound fair? ATB Freddy Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 A bipod is not really a gadget but when you speak of night vision well this is a route I'm definately gonna go. I'm looking at getting a night vision add-on to my day scope and on one of my shoots this with the bipod will be a good bit of fun for me but not the bunnies. Night vision will be my selfish pleasure as I usually go lamping with my friends so when I'm on my own I will use night vision I've never used NV. This may sound daft but how does it compre to lamping? Do the rabbits behave differently to when they're under a lamp? I guess it's just like watching them behave normaly, but is that an advantage over having them freeze when lit up? Cheers. Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 A bipod is not really a gadget but when you speak of night vision well this is a route I'm definately gonna go. I'm looking at getting a night vision add-on to my day scope and on one of my shoots this with the bipod will be a good bit of fun for me but not the bunnies. Night vision will be my selfish pleasure as I usually go lamping with my friends so when I'm on my own I will use night vision I've never used NV. This may sound daft but how does it compre to lamping? Do the rabbits behave differently to when they're under a lamp? I guess it's just like watching them behave normaly, but is that an advantage over having them freeze when lit up? Cheers. In places where people do a lot of lamping, the wabbits get lamp shy and will not freeze but leg it. Using NV you get around that problem and if you move quietly, the bunny will know you are there when it gets hit by a bit of led. Game over. HTH Michael Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 A bipod is not really a gadget but when you speak of night vision well this is a route I'm definately gonna go. I'm looking at getting a night vision add-on to my day scope and on one of my shoots this with the bipod will be a good bit of fun for me but not the bunnies. Night vision will be my selfish pleasure as I usually go lamping with my friends so when I'm on my own I will use night vision I've never used NV. This may sound daft but how does it compre to lamping? Do the rabbits behave differently to when they're under a lamp? I guess it's just like watching them behave normaly, but is that an advantage over having them freeze when lit up? Cheers. In places where people do a lot of lamping, the wabbits get lamp shy and will not freeze but leg it. Using NV you get around that problem and if you move quietly, the bunny will know you are there when it gets hit by a bit of led. Game over. HTH Michael I guess I'm lucky. The shoots I go on there's only me and as I don't get the chance to lamp that often, it's not been a problem for me. Thanks for that, I can see why it could work better for some folks. Bloody expensive though! Thanks. Quote Link to post
Timelord 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 You hit the nail on the head there Scuba1 because on one of my shoots the little wabbits are just as you say 'lamp shy' they know it's time to die by my hand Don't get me wrong I like the challenge and I'm good with hitting moving targets as well, but I'm 40 years old and get fed up chasing around after them I have 3 big shoots all to myself and I'm sure in time they'll all get lamp shy so this will be my ultimate goal in the next few weeks, the night vision I will be able to lay up nice and comfy with my iphone and headphones playing "bright eyes" softly and snipe the little feckers as they come out for a spot of late night tea Also using the night vision will give them the chance of forgetting the brightness from the lamp and they will go back to normal in a couple of generations of wabbits.. ATM the little fecker have taught their youngsters about death from men with lamps Quote Link to post
harry mac 1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 A scope with zoom and IR is all that I have on my gun and that will do me for now. Thinking about getting a scope mounted light as it is more comfortable then a separate one. But I don't class that as high technology. ATB Michael Scope mounted lights are all well and good, but I'm uncomfortable with them. Immagine you are lamping one night with your scope mounted lamp and you happen to illuminate a homeless person in your field, or someone walking down a lane 300 yards away, or a courting couple under a bush (you get what I'm on about). Bear in mind that at that moment it's not only your lamp that's pointing at them, it's your loaded and made ready rifle. "Never let your gun pointed be at anyone". Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Don't bother listening to 'Bright Eyes'. Try 'Angel of Death' by Slayer. Gets you in the mood....... Quote Link to post
3jackwhite3 2 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 well i was looking at the merlin cobra add on and it was a little to much at the time so i bought the yukon nvmt4 add on with adapter and 100mw led torch for just over £200 and it is the best thing i have ever bought for my air rifle but the only disadvantage is that you need a scope with PX adjustment to put it into focus when you shoot at different ranges. I find it the best peice of kit for shooting rats as the rats me and mates were shooting got lamp shy the first time we visited a farm so for every 1 my mates shoot with the lamp i have about 7 as i just sit waiting for them to come out. I have only shot one rabbit with NV and it was very hard to judge distance and if you are walking around with an add on get ready to get pissed of as you have to constantly chane the px of the scope so i find they are the best things if you are sitting and waiting for your target to come out as they havnt got a clue your there. Quote Link to post
Guest Scuba1 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 You hit the nail on the head there Scuba1 because on one of my shoots the little wabbits are just as you say 'lamp shy' they know it's time to die by my hand Don't get me wrong I like the challenge and I'm good with hitting moving targets as well, but I'm 40 years old and get fed up chasing around after them I have 3 big shoots all to myself and I'm sure in time they'll all get lamp shy so this will be my ultimate goal in the next few weeks, the night vision I will be able to lay up nice and comfy with my iphone and headphones playing "bright eyes" softly and snipe the little feckers as they come out for a spot of late night tea Also using the night vision will give them the chance of forgetting the brightness from the lamp and they will go back to normal in a couple of generations of wabbits.. ATM the little fecker have taught their youngsters about death from men with lamps As I am older then you and for me you could put a comphy armchair in that hedge row please and then thats just the way I like to hunt. :whistling: Quote Link to post
Timelord 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 A scope with zoom and IR is all that I have on my gun and that will do me for now. Thinking about getting a scope mounted light as it is more comfortable then a separate one. But I don't class that as high technology. ATB Michael Scope mounted lights are all well and good, but I'm uncomfortable with them. Immagine you are lamping one night with your scope mounted lamp and you happen to illuminate a homeless person in your field, or someone walking down a lane 300 yards away, or a courting couple under a bush (you get what I'm on about). Bear in mind that at that moment it's not only your lamp that's pointing at them, it's your loaded and made ready rifle. "Never let your gun pointed be at anyone". What a load of crap your chatting mate tramps hide up in shop doorways usually and if they are in the field then I think they will have a camp fire to keep warm On one of my shoots I actually have a nomad (homeless) tramp and I'll tell you this he don't live in the fecking field, he lives in the wooded part for extra shelter... I think you are a bogus lefty as your left wing nanny state opinion has raised that sixth sense alarm bell in my head, giving me the view you are an anti?? If I'm wrong then I will apologise, but you've got to admit the statement you've just made here was totally NANNY STATE GONE MAD! ATB Lee... Quote Link to post
Timelord 0 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Don't bother listening to 'Bright Eyes'. Try 'Angel of Death' by Slayer. Gets you in the mood....... Cool but Slipknot, Pantera, Sepultura will kick their butts all day Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 10, 2009 Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 I ave got to admit too much tech now but its not all that new .being a poacher of pheasents in the past the main gun's 30 years ago were the 22rm or the 4.10s the 22s wer the choice of the proffesionals so to speak ie easyer to carry 500 22s than 500 410s and also a lot quiter the onley diference was acuracy so they used luminos paint at first but it needed light shineing on it to work then they switched to the tops of night fishing float's fixed to the back and front sight . them days are the past but these scope's with the cross hairs lit up i wish i had them 30years ago .atb Quote Link to post
andyfr1968 772 Posted April 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2009 Don't bother listening to 'Bright Eyes'. Try 'Angel of Death' by Slayer. Gets you in the mood....... Cool but Slipknot, Pantera, Sepultura will kick their butts all day Total bollocks, but a fair point, well made...... Quote Link to post
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