hancocks dogs i am confused

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MR HANCOCK WROTE A PIECE IN THE COUNTRYMANS ON 1ST APRIL.. SAYING THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY LURCHERS BEING BRED. I AGREE HE IS BREEDING FAR TOO MANY CACK ONES. I SAY LET US WORKING MEN WHO WORK SO HARD TO TRAIN THE DOGS REEP SOME BENIFIT BY BREEDING OUR DOGS SOMETIMES.. I HAVE HAD 3 HANCOCK LURCHERS, 1 TURNED INTO A HORSE AT 29TTS THE OTHER TWO WELL IT'S NOT WORTH WRITTING ABOUT. WORKER TO WORKER BREEDING EVERY TIME FOR ME. PHIL HEYNES HAS GOT A GOOD LINE OF DOGS

just read that 1 mate thought cheeky b*****d breeding non working dogs then say too many lurchers being bred but in saying that my mate has 1 and it dose what he wants

There are two David hancocks, one is Colnel D Hancock the other is the previously respected puppy f Lurcher breeder from the midlands

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MR HANCOCK WROTE A PIECE IN THE COUNTRYMANS ON 1ST APRIL.. SAYING THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY LURCHERS BEING BRED. I AGREE HE IS BREEDING FAR TOO MANY CACK ONES. I SAY LET US WORKING MEN WHO WORK SO HARD TO TRAIN THE DOGS REEP SOME BENIFIT BY BREEDING OUR DOGS SOMETIMES.. I HAVE HAD 3 HANCOCK LURCHERS, 1 TURNED INTO A HORSE AT 29TTS THE OTHER TWO WELL IT'S NOT WORTH WRITTING ABOUT. WORKER TO WORKER BREEDING EVERY TIME FOR ME. PHIL HEYNES HAS GOT A GOOD LINE OF DOGS

just read that 1 mate thought cheeky b*****d breeding non working dogs then say too many lurchers being bred but in saying that my mate has 1 and it dose what he wants

There are two David hancocks, one is Colnel D Hancock the other is the previously respected puppy f Lurcher breeder from the midlands

sorry mate didnt know

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MR HANCOCK WROTE A PIECE IN THE COUNTRYMANS ON 1ST APRIL.. SAYING THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY LURCHERS BEING BRED. I AGREE HE IS BREEDING FAR TOO MANY CACK ONES. I SAY LET US WORKING MEN WHO WORK SO HARD TO TRAIN THE DOGS REEP SOME BENIFIT BY BREEDING OUR DOGS SOMETIMES.. I HAVE HAD 3 HANCOCK LURCHERS, 1 TURNED INTO A HORSE AT 29TTS THE OTHER TWO WELL IT'S NOT WORTH WRITTING ABOUT. WORKER TO WORKER BREEDING EVERY TIME FOR ME. PHIL HEYNES HAS GOT A GOOD LINE OF DOGS

just read that 1 mate thought cheeky b*****d breeding non working dogs then say too many lurchers being bred but in saying that my mate has 1 and it dose what he wants

There are two David hancocks, one is Colnel D Hancock the other is the previously respected puppy f Lurcher breeder from the midlands

you av got mi biting well don i think all give hancock a ring tommorow to see if he still breeds KANNECHORS you know that well known strain of chicken catching lurcher bred with hypnotic eyes to make the chickens calm [bANNED TEXT] the dog catches it

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this man hancock has done more damage to the lurcher than any other breeder in history.reason being thirty odd years ago [bANNED TEXT] you wer after alurcher you wer guaranteed nearly every litter were more than likely to have been bred out of tried and tested working dogs then his mate dbp rip had a bright idea to create a collie cross of a very unusual color with no other reason apart from colouring not to create sound dogs he then wrote a promotional book called merl the start of a dynasty and lads all over the country wanted one in the early eightis i saw one run one called blue out of the first greyhound merl was put to and asked a lad i had met to a courseing meet i used to try and organise he had the two dogs with him balaam and barak and was telling me all about plummer who was close freind.the day of the meet he turned up but not with the two dogs howether his mate with a dog called blue and a bitch called molly the bitch being grey/deer grey/collie out of working stock a fantastic dog the plummer bred dog well it made my mind up their and then never to own one and dont forget in the early day's he was calling them the best collie lurchers in the world.PS i wish i had a pound for every one of the poor sods thats ended up in the ground at an early age or in a rescue.

Hi Poacher

That brought back memories of Carlton, great days out.

 

Blue and Molly were two different kinds of dog, Molly killed hares for fun, she had an

excellent mouth and plenty of speed and stamina but an all round lurcher she wasnt.

If I remember rightly she took four that day two in the morning and two after the pub .

She was a one off the rest of her litter were mediocre as were a repeat litter.

 

Blue was no best of three hare dog, but as an all round lurcher he was a different class.

Lamping, Ferreting, bushing, squirrel shooting and he killed plenty daytime hares on his good days

Racing champion, High jump champion, obedience champion and lots of other show pony stuff

He even won on the Greyhound flapping tracks .

If I could have one of them two dogs now, I know which one it would be.

 

As for David Hancocks dogs, what he does is provide the raw material.

Does it matter if the greyhound has coursed hares or the collie rounded up sheep as long as they arent show bred

I have seen quite a few Hancocks over the years good and bad, in most cases directly dependant on the owner.

 

Any dog is what you make it as long as you have the right raw material.

 

YIS Skol

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just make's me deppresed [bANNED TEXT] theirs good lads out their breeding good tried and tested dogs and struggling to sell them and so called dog men would sooner go and buy one of a puppy peddlar

 

 

Well as expected it didn't take to long for the experts to have their say and start blowing hot air out their arses! for a start who breeds tried and tested dogs then sells them? If your referring to worker to worker well again thats a matter of opinion....for example how many so called "good lads" when breeding say a half bull x or deerhound x use tried and tested dogs for their baseline not many. As far as I'm aware most will use any bull or deerhound regardless of background. Again how many greyhounds are worked before being bred from and I'm not referring to running? And yes I would rather buy a dog from a so called "puppy pedlar" before I got one from someone who's trying to punt one from the back of a shed to make a few quid for himself. As someone pointed out at least you know whats in the dog you buy. Keep taking those pills for your depression.

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WORKER TO WORKER IS NO GOOD UNLESS YOU KNOW THE TRUE BREEDING OF THE DAM AND THE SIRE , oops sory for shouting , Hancock is a pupy farming arshole but he is breeding true ped lurchers and that is what atracts the buyers , THERE is far to meny lurchers for sale worker to worker that dont carry eny ped at all so you are just left geusing what is in the dogs make up ? I have seen meny good lurchers from no ped breedings and i have seen ones that are champs but they never seem to throw the champ gein in there off spring because when you breed worker to worker with no ped you can get a lot of throw backs from eather side of the mating , Hancock breeds a starting block lurcher with a ped and folk come from hundreds of miles away to buy them ! smart man ! PEDS is the way to go , but i would say hancocks way is the way to go lol .

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just make's me deppresed [bANNED TEXT] theirs good lads out their breeding good tried and tested dogs and struggling to sell them and so called dog men would sooner go and buy one of a puppy peddlar

 

 

Well as expected it didn't take to long for the experts to have their say and start blowing hot air out their arses! for a start who breeds tried and tested dogs then sells them? If your referring to worker to worker well again thats a matter of opinion....for example how many so called "good lads" when breeding say a half bull x or deerhound x use tried and tested dogs for their baseline not many. As far as I'm aware most will use any bull or deerhound regardless of background. Again how many greyhounds are worked before being bred from and I'm not referring to running? And yes I would rather buy a dog from a so called "puppy pedlar" before I got one from someone who's trying to punt one from the back of a shed to make a few quid for himself. As someone pointed out at least you know whats in the dog you buy. Keep taking those pills for your depression.

so his stud dogs are tried and tested working dogs then not his collies his lurchers

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im confused phoned mr hancock the other day he doesnt work any of his dogs they are too valuable apparentley.I dont want to be funny but why breed of dogs that dont work does he just rely on hearing how the pups turn out from the owners?I know mr hancock has been involved with lurchers for a long time but if he was alurher man how come he doesnt work any dogs??this is not an attack on mr hancock just a question

 

I would imagine it has something to do with the amount of stud dogs he has, and he's an old guy...bottom line it's a business he's running his aim is to sell dogs...some agree with it some dont watch how quick this deteriorates into a slagging match

 

 

You said it undisputed It will become a slagging match.

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so his stud dogs are tried and tested working dogs then not his collies his lurchers

In most/all cases they've never even had grass under their feet! When I was there several years back he never had anywhere to excersise any dog/bitch, they would just get a ten yard stretch along a corridor when he cleaned out their pens. It might be different now that his daughter is involved.

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so his stud dogs are tried and tested working dogs then not his collies his lurchers

In most/all cases they've never even had grass under their feet! When I was there several years back he never had anywhere to excersise any dog/bitch, they would just get a ten yard stretch along a corridor when he cleaned out their pens. It might be different now that his daughter is involved.

cheers mate that sounds deppresing inough to to any lurcher man or woman whos ultimate concern is the care and welfare of the dogs he worships ps were is that prozac

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so his stud dogs are tried and tested working dogs then not his collies his lurchers

In most/all cases they've never even had grass under their feet! When I was there several years back he never had anywhere to excersise any dog/bitch, they would just get a ten yard stretch along a corridor when he cleaned out their pens. It might be different now that his daughter is involved.

cheers mate that sounds deppresing inough to to any lurcher man or woman whos ultimate concern is the care and welfare of the dogs he worships ps were is that prozac

 

 

Hi mate i have tryed to stay out of this topic.As few of my friend,s have gone down south to buy his dog,s and to be honest i cant say they are any better than most good lurcher,s.atb catcher

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WORKER TO WORKER IS NO GOOD UNLESS YOU KNOW THE TRUE BREEDING OF THE DAM AND THE SIRE , oops sory for shouting , Hancock is a pupy farming arshole but he is breeding true ped lurchers and that is what atracts the buyers , THERE is far to meny lurchers for sale worker to worker that dont carry eny ped at all so you are just left geusing what is in the dogs make up ? I have seen meny good lurchers from no ped breedings and i have seen ones that are champs but they never seem to throw the champ gein in there off spring because when you breed worker to worker with no ped you can get a lot of throw backs from eather side of the mating , Hancock breeds a starting block lurcher with a ped and folk come from hundreds of miles away to buy them ! smart man ! PEDS is the way to go , but i would say hancocks way is the way to go lol .

His stud dogs are quality collies. He scoured the country for working beardie stock and his borders are/have been/come from generations of working stock.The Dams are ex-racing greyhounds often been good dogs too.

Everyone moans about paying £200 for a pup but IMHO its a prohibitive price which means you'll think twice about paying for it and if you do pay you'll think twice about getting rid.Again IMHO putting the best to the best and hoping for the best is all you can ask for. If people just stopped breeding lurchers at a young age because they show promise then the rescue centres wouldn't be full of lurchers. And in any case if i wanted a working dog these days i wouldn't buy one off anyone unless the sire and dam were at least 4 years old because younger they haven't really had time to prove themselves properly in the field. A good dog at 2 can be burnt out at 3 ..thats not for me.

You go to hancock's you know what your getting. Any lurcher can make a fair dog. Before the ban some dogs would take fox some wouldn't ..does that make it a bad dog FFS course it doesn't.

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WORKER TO WORKER IS NO GOOD UNLESS YOU KNOW THE TRUE BREEDING OF THE DAM AND THE SIRE , oops sory for shouting , Hancock is a pupy farming arshole but he is breeding true ped lurchers and that is what atracts the buyers , THERE is far to meny lurchers for sale worker to worker that dont carry eny ped at all so you are just left geusing what is in the dogs make up ? I have seen meny good lurchers from no ped breedings and i have seen ones that are champs but they never seem to throw the champ gein in there off spring because when you breed worker to worker with no ped you can get a lot of throw backs from eather side of the mating , Hancock breeds a starting block lurcher with a ped and folk come from hundreds of miles away to buy them ! smart man ! PEDS is the way to go , but i would say hancocks way is the way to go lol .

His stud dogs are quality collies. He scoured the country for working beardie stock and his borders are/have been/come from generations of working stock.The Dams are ex-racing greyhounds often been good dogs too.

Everyone moans about paying £200 for a pup but IMHO its a prohibitive price which means you'll think twice about paying for it and if you do pay you'll think twice about getting rid.Again IMHO putting the best to the best and hoping for the best is all you can ask for. If people just stopped breeding lurchers at a young age because they show promise then the rescue centres wouldn't be full of lurchers. And in any case if i wanted a working dog these days i wouldn't buy one off anyone unless the sire and dam were at least 4 years old because younger they haven't really had time to prove themselves properly in the field. A good dog at 2 can be burnt out at 3 ..thats not for me.

You go to hancock's you know what your getting. Any lurcher can make a fair dog. Before the ban some dogs would take fox some wouldn't ..does that make it a bad dog FFS course it doesn't.

 

 

Hi mate this is why i tryed to stay away from this topic.Read my post it,s not about money.I would gladly pay £200 for a pup If i know the person i am buying from.All i said was i have seen his dog,s working.But have seen better from people i know.atb catcher.P.S I dont think £200 is dear for a well bred dog.

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this man hancock has done more damage to the lurcher than any other breeder in history.reason being thirty odd years ago [bANNED TEXT] you wer after alurcher you wer guaranteed nearly every litter were more than likely to have been bred out of tried and tested working dogs then his mate dbp rip had a bright idea to create a collie cross of a very unusual color with no other reason apart from colouring not to create sound dogs he then wrote a promotional book called merl the start of a dynasty and lads all over the country wanted one in the early eightis i saw one run one called blue out of the first greyhound merl was put to and asked a lad i had met to a courseing meet i used to try and organise he had the two dogs with him balaam and barak and was telling me all about plummer who was close freind.the day of the meet he turned up but not with the two dogs howether his mate with a dog called blue and a bitch called molly the bitch being grey/deer grey/collie out of working stock a fantastic dog the plummer bred dog well it made my mind up their and then never to own one and dont forget in the early day's he was calling them the best collie lurchers in the world.PS i wish i had a pound for every one of the poor sods thats ended up in the ground at an early age or in a rescue.

Hi Poacher

That brought back memories of Carlton, great days out.

 

Blue and Molly were two different kinds of dog, Molly killed hares for fun, she had an

excellent mouth and plenty of speed and stamina but an all round lurcher she wasnt.

If I remember rightly she took four that day two in the morning and two after the pub .

She was a one off the rest of her litter were mediocre as were a repeat litter.

 

Blue was no best of three hare dog, but as an all round lurcher he was a different class.

Lamping, Ferreting, bushing, squirrel shooting and he killed plenty daytime hares on his good days

Racing champion, High jump champion, obedience champion and lots of other show pony stuff

He even won on the Greyhound flapping tracks .

If I could have one of them two dogs now, I know which one it would be.

 

As for David Hancocks dogs, what he does is provide the raw material.

Does it matter if the greyhound has coursed hares or the collie rounded up sheep as long as they arent show bred

I have seen quite a few Hancocks over the years good and bad, in most cases directly dependant on the owner.

 

Any dog is what you make it as long as you have the right raw material.

 

YIS Skol

correct me if i am wrong was molly bred by a lad from penistone only my cousin had one and a couple of freinds all making good dogs alvb