hancocks dogs i am confused

[matt32 44]

im confused phoned mr hancock the other day he doesnt work any of his dogs they are too valuable apparentley.I dont want to be funny but why breed of dogs that dont work does he just rely on hearing how the pups turn out from the owners?I know mr hancock has been involved with lurchers for a long time but if he was alurher man how come he doesnt work any dogs??this is not an attack on mr hancock just a question

[undisputed 1,664]

im confused phoned mr hancock the other day he doesnt work any of his dogs they are too valuable apparentley.I dont want to be funny but why breed of dogs that dont work does he just rely on hearing how the pups turn out from the owners?I know mr hancock has been involved with lurchers for a long time but if he was alurher man how come he doesnt work any dogs??this is not an attack on mr hancock just a question

 

I would imagine it has something to do with the amount of stud dogs he has, and he's an old guy...bottom line it's a business he's running his aim is to sell dogs...some agree with it some dont watch how quick this deteriorates into a slagging match

Edited April 3, 2009 by undisputed

[Guest jt750]

He breeds dogs.if you buy one you know exactly what your going to get. People love them or hate them. There has been a lot of good ones and a lot of bad ones ..you pays your money you takes your chance. And yes this will deteriorate into a slanging match ...yet again i'm sorry to say

[matt32 44]

thanks for your answers i think though im going to pick a pup from a litter bred from workers.

[lurchers 2,754]

he relies on other people telling him what they are taking e.g [fox,deer,hairs]so when you buy a pup he will tell you what that litter will take and so on.but for £250 a pup i would buy 1 from working stock so you no what ya getting

[Guest flapper]

MR HANCOCK WROTE A PIECE IN THE COUNTRYMANS ON 1ST APRIL.. SAYING THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY LURCHERS BEING BRED. I AGREE HE IS BREEDING FAR TOO MANY CACK ONES. I SAY LET US WORKING MEN WHO WORK SO HARD TO TRAIN THE DOGS REEP SOME BENIFIT BY BREEDING OUR DOGS SOMETIMES.. I HAVE HAD 3 HANCOCK LURCHERS, 1 TURNED INTO A HORSE AT 29TTS THE OTHER TWO WELL IT'S NOT WORTH WRITTING ABOUT. WORKER TO WORKER BREEDING EVERY TIME FOR ME. PHIL HEYNES HAS GOT A GOOD LINE OF DOGS

[MikeTheDog 153]

how come he doesnt work any dogs

 

And unless things have drastically changed since my visit there a few years ago none of his dogs get let out of their pens for proper exercise or socialising with other dogs/people.

Edited April 3, 2009 by MikeTheDog

[Guest jt750]

Here we go maybe we should ask a "lets slag hancocks dogs" board so we don't have to read the same thing said over and over again

Edited April 3, 2009 by jt750

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MR HANCOCK WROTE A PIECE IN THE COUNTRYMANS ON 1ST APRIL.. SAYING THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY LURCHERS BEING BRED. I AGREE HE IS BREEDING FAR TOO MANY CACK ONES. I SAY LET US WORKING MEN WHO WORK SO HARD TO TRAIN THE DOGS REEP SOME BENIFIT BY BREEDING OUR DOGS SOMETIMES.. I HAVE HAD 3 HANCOCK LURCHERS, 1 TURNED INTO A HORSE AT 29TTS THE OTHER TWO WELL IT'S NOT WORTH WRITTING ABOUT. WORKER TO WORKER BREEDING EVERY TIME FOR ME. PHIL HEYNES HAS GOT A GOOD LINE OF DOGS

 

 

its a difrent Hancock , that wrote that in the CMW

[matt32 44]

thanks everyone for their answers.it seems to me dog breding of any sort throws up some good uns and some bad.but if you are genuinley puttin the best to the best for their workin ability and not profit you cant be faulted.

[matt32 44]

thanks everyone for their answers.it seems to me dog breding of any sort throws up some good uns and some bad.but if you are genuinley puttin the best to the best for their workin ability and not profit you cant be faulted.

i have nothing against mr hancock but in researching gettin a lurcher pup i have heard many things i am new to this site dont want to upset anyone i have seen some nice looking dogs of his

[MikeTheDog 153]

i have seen some nice looking dogs of his

Probably the best selection of colours, brindles/Merle's in the country and in fairness to Hancock I don't think he advertises them as working stock, to quote his web site, "Collie cross greyhound Lurchers make excellent family companions especially suited to the outdoor lifestyle, combining the intelligence of the collie breed with the placid temperament of the greyhound. They can be trained to a very high standard including top class kennel club agility."...I'll not go over old ground saying why I don't approve of his set up, it's all been said before

[LamperJohn 12]

if your genuinely interested in a collie greyhound of decent stock give my good friend colliejohn a pm, he will point you in the right direction regards john

[poacher3161 1,766]

this man hancock has done more damage to the lurcher than any other breeder in history.reason being thirty odd years ago [bANNED TEXT] you wer after alurcher you wer guaranteed nearly every litter were more than likely to have been bred out of tried and tested working dogs then his mate dbp rip had a bright idea to create a collie cross of a very unusual color with no other reason apart from colouring not to create sound dogs he then wrote a promotional book called merl the start of a dynasty and lads all over the country wanted one in the early eightis i saw one run one called blue out of the first greyhound merl was put to and asked a lad i had met to a courseing meet i used to try and organise he had the two dogs with him balaam and barak and was telling me all about plummer who was close freind.the day of the meet he turned up but not with the two dogs howether his mate with a dog called blue and a bitch called molly the bitch being grey/deer grey/collie out of working stock a fantastic dog the plummer bred dog well it made my mind up their and then never to own one and dont forget in the early day's he was calling them the best collie lurchers in the world.PS i wish i had a pound for every one of the poor sods thats ended up in the ground at an early age or in a rescue.

[matt32 44]

this man hancock has done more damage to the lurcher than any other breeder in history.reason being thirty odd years ago [bANNED TEXT] you wer after alurcher you wer guaranteed nearly every litter were more than likely to have been bred out of tried and tested working dogs then his mate dbp rip had a bright idea to create a collie cross of a very unusual color with no other reason apart from colouring not to create sound dogs he then wrote a promotional book called merl the start of a dynasty and lads all over the country wanted one in the early eightis i saw one run one called blue out of the first greyhound merl was put to and asked a lad i had met to a courseing meet i used to try and organise he had the two dogs with him balaam and barak and was telling me all about plummer who was close freind.the day of the meet he turned up but not with the two dogs howether his mate with a dog called blue and a bitch called molly the bitch being grey/deer grey/collie out of working stock a fantastic dog the plummer bred dog well it made my mind up their and then never to own one and dont forget in the early day's he was calling them the best collie lurchers in the world.PS i wish i had a pound for every one of the poor sods thats ended up in the ground at an early age or in a rescue.

thanks for your reply poacher i too used too read the dbp books when i was younger they started my intrest in fieldsports and would not know of hancock except for readin about him.I know with lurchers what you put in training wise has a lot to do with it ,but i wont be gettin a hancock dog now too many seem to be in rescue centers and i dont want a dog thats not bred from workers.