murphy 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 (edited) just letting everyone know i took on board ever one advice on what to do with my two dogs and thanks, i got rid of them today, i bought a 12 mont old collie cross the other night, he is hunting the lamp very well, look at my picture and give me soon advice on what to do with a young dog, should i hunt away or take it slow with him. Edited March 31, 2009 by murphy Quote Link to post
Guest AngelicAcid Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 back to basice mate, ferreting and very very very easy catches if thats possible with these dogs, this is why youve got them because some one has ruined them at an early age. you have a lot of work mate, and to me looks like you have a dog that opens up(yapping) And a dog that has jacked(thrown the towel in and given up) Quote Link to post
FENS FEVER 147 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 i just got 2 first cross collie, greyhound lurchers. about 2 years old. the bitch is hunting rabbits, but if the rabbit turns she starts barking until she catches the game, The dog will hunt but stops if a rabbit turns him, is there any way of sorting any one of the problems?unlucky mate ,give them loads of ferreted rabbits if that dosent work then give them a good rest and start them when the winter is hear,some times a rest helps they could have been worked very hard before you had them, all the best FENS FEVER Quote Link to post
furdy 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 back to basice mate, ferreting and very very very easy catches if thats possible with these dogs, this is why youve got them because some one has ruined them at an early age.you have a lot of work mate, and to me looks like you have a dog that opens up(yapping) And a dog that has jacked(thrown the towel in and given up) Spot on...... Its unlikely that the bitch will ever stop yapping to be honest. The dog you may have more sucsess with but he'll probably never put his heart and soul into it. Like AA says you really need to treat them as though they were pups and start again. Just highlights the need to resist starting a dog until it is ready mentally which is usually later than most people think. All the best with them mate. Quote Link to post
Guest AngelicAcid Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Thats the risk you take buying in older dogs. Good luck mate, rest and plenty of time might sort at least one out. Quote Link to post
bird 9,926 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 With colliex greys [1x] they need alot of success early on at catching. Once they have,they make great rabbiting dogs[day-night]. My 1x collie grey Bryn, has had 95 rabbits,3 hares, in the lamp, he caught them at 16 months old, not bad for a young dog. With young dogs [especially] 1x collie grey ,TRY and pick your rabbits at first , say 15-20. As been said , you will go very slow now with each dog. Take them out on there own, 1 to 1 and try them on some daft summer time rabbits, this is prob some times when you take on a older dog. Some times it works, and some time doesnt. Stick with it. Quote Link to post
Guest WILF Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Shoot the wankers and start again!! Quote Link to post
harddigging 42 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 Shoot the wankers and start again!! im afraid hes right them problems will be the reason they were sold, you kidding youreself and wasting pecious time if you think you can make them anybetter than low average, get rid and bring a pup on, just the one pup mind for the first couple off seasons. Quote Link to post
mikeyboy 7 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 you have your work cut out mate. i wouldnt give up on them though. you have brought them now and every dog deserves a chance. who ever had them before has not done his job with them. at 2yr old though you still have a chance at getting them good. still pups mentally. just try and get some easy rabbits for them, its all about confidence with them and making it a game atb mike Quote Link to post
bullx 12 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 most times when a dog give s a bit of tounge its a sign that he has,nt got a hope of catching what hes chasing,if i had it it would be gone long ago,no use having a barking dog on a nights lamping, Quote Link to post
wexford Pa 84 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 I think the key thing here is lack of confidence... its been said already but if your gonna persist with these dogs you'll need to give them a couple of easy kills and ferreting is your best option... Even try 1 or 2 droppers in an open field.. ATB Pa Quote Link to post
blackpack 70 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 agree with Wilf on this one no good mate they wont become good dogs, if they were any good then you wouldnt of had them. Quote Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 give them a lead biscuit.... Quote Link to post
matty73 4 Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 i would go with a complete break from hunting with them for at least 6month just walks to keep fitness up and bond with them then start as you would with pup take one dog at a time on ferreting trips no bolters just watching, marking, maybe holding netted rabbits when they seem confident at this then give them dropper each one dog at a time the easier the better see how they react if they ok give them couple more, confidence should build gradually dont rush it take your time plenty of praise, when they running and taking the droppers well without any trouble try them on lamp but pick them easy runs, squatters if possible at first only give them couple of runs each even if they doing well and build gradually hopefully they come good for you mate if not its a lesson learned unfortunately the hard way that nobody parts with good dogs there are exceptions but usually they snapped up without the need to advertise .ps not being funny but you have checked them for injuries ie pulled muscles, sprains ect Quote Link to post
Guest fence_hopper Posted March 30, 2009 Report Share Posted March 30, 2009 i would go with a complete break from hunting with them for at least 6month just walks to keep fitness up and bond with them then start as you would with pup take one dog at a time on ferreting trips no bolters just watching, marking, maybe holding netted rabbits when they seem confident at this then give them dropper each one dog at a time the easier the better see how they react if they ok give them couple more, confidence should build gradually dont rush it take your time plenty of praise, when they running and taking the droppers well without any trouble try them on lamp but pick them easy runs, squatters if possible at first only give them couple of runs each even if they doing well and build gradually hopefully they come good for you mate if not its a lesson learned unfortunately the hard way that nobody parts with good dogs there are exceptions but usually they snapped up without the need to advertise .ps not being funny but you have checked them for injuries ie pulled muscles, sprains ect you'll be fighting a lost cause, get a pup in for next season and take your time with it, no point of stressing over someone elses shite Quote Link to post
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