labsnlurchers 39 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 welsh assembly have a badger helpline where people can get more information about the cull. As far as i am aware the area of north pembrokshire has not been decided and some more research into this is being undertaken so that the area chosen will show the results of the cull clearly ie high tb high badger area. Also amendments to badger legislation need to be made before the cull can go ahead but at least wales is on its way to providing the farmers with the 'tools' to do their jobs. may the rest of the uk follow, get a bit if back bone so to speak. Minister should be commended for making this contraversial decision and finally standing up and taking account of the suffering that tb causes to farmers cattle wildlife inc. badgers. Last year tb slaughters in cattle were up 52% on 2007, compo is costing some 23 million when compared to a couple of million in 1999. Its obvious that current attemts to eradicate this crippling disease are not working and these figures are certainly not sustainable, and the only viable reason is that there is tb remaining after the slaughter, in wildlife vectors such as badgers. If anyone is interested in the number for the badger team in WAG i will get it from work tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oggy808 24 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 i been told the guy that was on wales tv that has lost 800 head of cattle has had over £1 million, thats not up to date with what has gone from farm so more to come ,alright for some Quote Link to post Share on other sites
labsnlurchers 39 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 i been told the guy that was on wales tv that has lost 800 head of cattle has had over £1 million, thats not up to date with what has gone from farm so more to come ,alright for some Thats right mate but as far as im aware the farmer gets compo for the cattle that are slaughtered, no consideration to the fact that until they are clear no livestock in or out of the farm so no income at all for however long it takes for the tb to go and sometimes that is a hell of a long time, years in fact, especially when there are badgers on the land. He still has to pay for the animal feed, bedding, water, fertilizer, grazing, vets fees, electric, staff, mortgage, fuel, fencing, but with all income stopped except the compo how long do you think it will last? hopefully the cull will be extended and farmers will be able to get rid of tb quicker with controlled wildlife vectors and get back to producing sooner This is the link to the compo they get for slaughtered cattle, individually its not much but if a guy had 800 cattle slaughtered then probably 1 million sounds about right. http://www.defra.gov.uk/news/2009/090302a.htm I bet if you asked him he would much rather still have his cattle, alot goes into dairy farmers herd to breed cows with high milk yield, years of breeding lost because the farmer wasnt allowed to control tb in badgers but was forced to control it in his cattle When he buys his replacement cattle he will have to start from scratch again, finding high milk yield cows to breed and a bull that produces decent progeny with high milk yield, breeding from the best to get the best but it all takes alot of years and alot of hard work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Indeed L n L, some of the herds I'm aware of have carried on for many a generation, not just one. To have that destroyed must be so soul destroying, no amount of money can return them. I hope they get the go ahead and have some positive results for Farmers all over Quote Link to post Share on other sites
happylamper 7 Posted March 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 thanks for the post LnL good to read fella i hope it all goes well. for the farmers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dangergirl 13 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 (edited) We have an 800 head dairy farm and had 100+ cows go 5 years ago, since then weve been tb free for only a few months.As we have had it before, we are tested on a severe reading which means anything suspect goes....which means we are unable to sell current stock. Alot of the cows that have been diagnosed as 'tb reactors'...., when autopsied had no signs of tb, its beggining to become a numbers game with us...we have so many cows that are under alot of stress anyway...something is going to react!! If people realised how many years it takes a heard to get to the stage ours was at, selecting and breeding the type of cow suitable for your unit(feeding, efficiency, type, milk fat and protien levels) ect ect, then the general public would realise that farmers would rather have the cows and then any amount of money. I dont hate badgers as some farmers do, its not their fault they are the carriers of tb......but it is proven that some farms with increased/new badger activity are lickely to have, or contract tb. I cant see why some people are so against a cull, they are happy to see badgers saved and milling about.....fair enough.....but on the other hand happy to see 100 of cows slaughtered because of a group of badgers.....whats the difference? Both animals are black and white, both animals should be looked after the same. Just my opinion, DG Edited March 26, 2009 by dangergirl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oggy808 24 Posted March 26, 2009 Report Share Posted March 26, 2009 L+L just to say wales is still on the old compo scheme , takes in to account lost production and stock value of next generation so far more than english scheme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Back Stabbath 1 Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 I just hate to see any animal wasted. If I had my way, the badger skins would be saved and sold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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