zap 4 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 sorry i did get it wrong he did pay for the chinese and wats it got to do with anyone else about it have you nothing better to do apart from shit stir ive not herd anyone else moan over people staying at the others houses i think this thread should be blocked to stop all this shit onece and for all some ones got a big chip on ther shoulder why ask people to stay if theres shit after or slagging off mlb miss lurcher bitch why give anyone answers it wont make a blind bit of difference to some of this lot Quote Link to post
Tuzo 251 Posted March 28, 2009 Report Share Posted March 28, 2009 anyone who works there pups before 10 month old is a fool they wont be able to run by 2 yr old they will yap jack bad feet bones the lot Yeah but they'll be ok for a few shows and a bit of bag chasing............ thats why i like it on here i can learn of you I dont have the ability to learn you anything , like my old Gran said to me "you cant educate pork"............ Quote Link to post
Guest bronze09 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 anyone who works there pups before 10 month old is a fool they wont be able to run by 2 yr old they will yap jack bad feet bones the lot Yeah but they'll be ok for a few shows and a bit of bag chasing............ thats why i like it on here i can learn of you I dont have the ability to learn you anything , like my old Gran said to me "you cant educate pork"............ Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 This time tomorrow it will be all done and dusted and the real bickering and windups will begin....tomorrow night is JUDGEMENT NIGHT Quote Link to post
LDR 29 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 This time tomorrow it will be all done and dusted and the real bickering and windups will begin....tomorrow night is JUDGEMENT NIGHT Its on monday night mate............... Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,284 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 You've missed a great opportunity; the last few nights have been perfect lamping nights up here; howling wind, cloud, no moon. But now the wind has gone, there was a real frost this morning and the moon is on its way back up !! Cheers. Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 This time tomorrow it will be all done and dusted and the real bickering and windups will begin....tomorrow night is JUDGEMENT NIGHT Its on monday night mate............... Aye ah know mate technically I put the post up on Sunday morning.....it's all the excitement I cant sleep Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Utter rubbish most dogs dont start of as shit theyre usually made that way by inept handlers....even the so called worst bred dogs will become competent dogs with regular work....how a dog performs in the field is largely down to how it's brought on and entered....any dog will learn to strike well with practice....stamina will come with regular work and exercise....how do you expect any dog to perform well it's not used to it's potential. To many folk throw in the towel early when the dog doesn't live up to their expectations or catch double figures everytime they go out Your wrong there, some dogs are shit no matter if there entered correctly or not. Quote Link to post
chimp 299 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 i have a concern for new members wanting to join this site , mark and his followers are using up all the user names and soon there will be none left lol Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Utter rubbish most dogs dont start of as shit theyre usually made that way by inept handlers....even the so called worst bred dogs will become competent dogs with regular work....how a dog performs in the field is largely down to how it's brought on and entered....any dog will learn to strike well with practice....stamina will come with regular work and exercise....how do you expect any dog to perform well it's not used to it's potential. To many folk throw in the towel early when the dog doesn't live up to their expectations or catch double figures everytime they go out Your wrong there, some dogs are shit no matter if there entered correctly or not. Dont agree with you mate any lurcher type dog will catch rabbits, work with ferrets mark holes etc if brought on properly. I concede not all will go on to take all quarry but you cant define a dog as useless because it's not physically capable of doing a specific job ie if you wanted the dog for say bigger quarry you wouldn't necessarily take on a small whippety type. My own personal opinion is that any lurcher will have something it's good at and some take longer than others to develop into useful dogs. Some people are in to much of a hurry to enter their dogs to specific quarry without giving the dog a proper grounding or a decent apprenticeship. People sometimes get caught up in what others are doing with their dogs and if their dogs dont do the same then there must be something wrong with them and generally get rid of them. Now there are some dogs that will enter more quickly than others and go on to make decent workers but these are few and far between. How many dogs get ruined in their first season because the owner has no patience and get passed on if they're lucky? A dog learns from experiences same as we all do so it stands to reason that if a dog thats being worked on a regular basis on ground that holds plenty of game comes up against one thats only out for the odd mooch and hardly see's anything will or should be superior in fitness and catching ability. There's a lot of variables go into making a good dog same as there is for making a bad one. There was an example in here of someone taking on a Bull x and was told by one of so called experts on this breed it would not take a certain quarry, the reports from this lad suggest otherwise so what changed? How was this lad able to get the best out of a dog that was branded as below standard in some way? Anyway just to round this of I go back to my original point no dog is born as useless in 99.9% of the cases I would bet it's something the owner did or didn't do. Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) undisputed, not all dogs make the grade even on rabbits. I had a bitch around 15 year ago she was trained and entered properly. Lamping she would catch about 5 rabbits even the hardest ones with ease then get bored just stand and watch them run away. She had a few breeds in her mix but her parents were rabbit dogs. Edited March 29, 2009 by joe ox Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 undisputed, not all dogs make the grade even on rabbits. I had a bitch around 15 year ago she was trained and entered properly. Lamping she would catch about 5 rabbits even the hardest ones with ease then get bored just stand and watch them run away. She had a few breeds in her mix but her parents where rabbit dogs. How long did you have her for?how old?....some folk would have been glad of the 5 bunnies Joe the point I'm trying to make is that no dog is totally useless it depends on what you want from a dog....if your a ferreter as long as it can mark and catch the odd bolter that gets out the net what's wrong with that, owning a dog should never be about numbers. Maybe it was something that happend to the dog as a pup or young adult I dont know but I cant comment as I dont know how you brought it on or entered the dog. Thats not a criticism as you might have done nowt wrong. My nephew had a dog that some folk would have said was useless she was a half collie grey but threw more to the collie side. She wasn't the best lamping dog she didn't catch many rabbits or hares but she had a great work ethic she would work cover push quarry out from dense woods for other dog's to chase. she would work a line back and forth all day like a spaniel and provided the other dogs with some great sport. As I said a lot of folk would have written her off as useless but she found her place and the other dogs probably wouldn't have seen half as much quarry as they did without her. Quote Link to post
Guest joe ox Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 How long did you have her for?how old?....some folk would have been glad of the 5 bunnies Joe I bought her as a 6 week old pup I forget exactly how old before I had enough and sent her to the happy hunting ground but she was given plenty chances!!! Some folk may be happy with 5 rabbits but not me! The simple fact is no matter how you dress it up not all dogs make the grade even on rabbits. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,509 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 How long did you have her for?how old?....some folk would have been glad of the 5 bunnies Joe I bought her as a 6 week old pup I forget exactly how old before I had enough and sent her to the happy hunting ground but she was given plenty chances!!! Some folk may be happy with 5 rabbits but not me! The simple fact is no matter how you dress it up not all dogs make the grade even on rabbits. agreed some dogs just dont make the grade, no matter how you try to dress it up Quote Link to post
woz 260 Posted March 29, 2009 Report Share Posted March 29, 2009 Utter rubbish most dogs dont start of as shit theyre usually made that way by inept handlers....even the so called worst bred dogs will become competent dogs with regular work....how a dog performs in the field is largely down to how it's brought on and entered....any dog will learn to strike well with practice....stamina will come with regular work and exercise....how do you expect any dog to perform well it's not used to it's potential. To many folk throw in the towel early when the dog doesn't live up to their expectations or catch double figures everytime they go out Your wrong there, some dogs are shit no matter if there entered correctly or not. Dont agree with you mate any lurcher type dog will catch rabbits, work with ferrets mark holes etc if brought on properly. I concede not all will go on to take all quarry but you cant define a dog as useless because it's not physically capable of doing a specific job ie if you wanted the dog for say bigger quarry you wouldn't necessarily take on a small whippety type. My own personal opinion is that any lurcher will have something it's good at and some take longer than others to develop into useful dogs. Some people are in to much of a hurry to enter their dogs to specific quarry without giving the dog a proper grounding or a decent apprenticeship. People sometimes get caught up in what others are doing with their dogs and if their dogs dont do the same then there must be something wrong with them and generally get rid of them. Now there are some dogs that will enter more quickly than others and go on to make decent workers but these are few and far between. How many dogs get ruined in their first season because the owner has no patience and get passed on if they're lucky? A dog learns from experiences same as we all do so it stands to reason that if a dog thats being worked on a regular basis on ground that holds plenty of game comes up against one thats only out for the odd mooch and hardly see's anything will or should be superior in fitness and catching ability. There's a lot of variables go into making a good dog same as there is for making a bad one. There was an example in here of someone taking on a Bull x and was told by one of so called experts on this breed it would not take a certain quarry, the reports from this lad suggest otherwise so what changed? How was this lad able to get the best out of a dog that was branded as below standard in some way? Anyway just to round this of I go back to my original point no dog is born as useless in 99.9% of the cases I would bet it's something the owner did or didn't do. your bang on right what you have said....we have a collie that has just matured at the age of three years,he has turned into a cracking dog on cattle just took time..iv had my fare share of older problem dogs that wouldnt do this or that and have turned out to be fine..i do wonder how many dogs have been wrote off for not making the grade when all along its been the w*nker on the other end of the leed that was at fault Quote Link to post
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