Guest buster321c Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Ive had a problem with my security light for while so i took it down today and used the PIR censor off it ( which works ) on another light , which had a dodgy PIR , ( the other light kept gettin water in it ) . Anyway , i changed the PIR no problem sorted the light so it was all in one piece and tested it . Now you will have to bear with me while i explain . From the light unit there are 3 wires , 2 with a cotton type sheid around them , and a green/yellow one . From the PIR unit there are 2 , a red and a blue . Now i tested it by putting a 2core flex with a plug on to the connection block . So a white/cotton from the light with red from PIR To red on the flex with plug on . Other white/cotton from the light with the blue from PIR To blue on the flex with plug on . Yellow/green connected to nothing . Plugged it in and it was fine , adjusted the censor , it worked a treat . So outside ive got 1 wire , with a red , black and a small bare copper wire inside . So i figure that if i wire the wires the same on the outside as i did on the plug it will work , how bloody wrong you can be !! Ive had every configuration you can think of and although the light does work , no problem , the censor does not work . So ive either got it wired wrong , or ive blown something on the PIR by wiring it wrong . Any ideas ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maty j 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 The yellow and green cable Is the one that should definately be connected to something Sounds like It's been bodged bigtime and If you don't know what your doing get a spark In as left as Is It could cause someone serious damage or at worse death! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter08 0 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Pm GreatWhiteHunter Mate! I Know He Was An Apprentice Electrician, Hope This Can Help ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maty j 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Even running the light with no earth Is asking for trouble no matter what amount of time. No doubt you've been playing with It too while the powers still on, Even unintentially, I know I have made mistakes before now but leave be and get someone In who knows what there doing or you may not have the chance to regret trying to sort It youself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SwissTony 0 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 You tried wiring it back on the 2 core flex to see if it still works? If it does, maybe the 3 core stuff is no good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest buster321c Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I havent been messin with it while its been on , i aint that stupid ! It`ll trip out if somethings amiss with it anyway . Its just buggin the life out of me . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maty j 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I havent been messin with it while its been on , i aint that stupid ! It`ll trip out if somethings amiss with it anyway . Its just buggin the life out of me . Deppens what type of protective device Is on It...... That earth wire should definately be connected to something though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest buster321c Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 I havent been messin with it while its been on , i aint that stupid ! It`ll trip out if somethings amiss with it anyway . Its just buggin the life out of me . Deppens what type of protective device Is on It...... That earth wire should definately be connected to something though. Ye i kinda thought that , but why would it work on the 2 core flex with no earth ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maty j 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) Could be anything. Are you tripping out, loose connection, wrong pollarity? What set up are you using exactly. From the t&e wire Is the feed coming straight from a plug? Checked the fuse In It? Edited March 22, 2009 by maty j Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest buster321c Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Its not connected to a plug while its on the outside of the house , its on a thick wire , with red , black and small copper wire in it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
patterdale pup 0 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 get yourself to BQ mate just got a 1000watt light with built in PIR for 8 quid better safe than sorry i say Quote Link to post Share on other sites
maty j 6 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Could be anything and without proper test equipment I'm glad It's not my problem. Alternitavely, Do the safe route adn as PP suggests just get a new PIR light. No need to get the 1/2 mile spot light 1KW ones If you only want It for outside the garage etc. Problem solved then and you should come out In 1 piece Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest buster321c Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 It dont matter , i know it works , so no point gettin a new one , ive just got the wires wrong or something like that , cheers anyway . Just thought somebody might know the right way to wire it . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Meriln2008 0 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Your yellow/green wire should be connected to the body of the lamp. Polarity on most PIR's is'nt usually a prob,nor tthe lamp itself. Wet your fingers and hold the ends of the feed cable you are using, see if you've got power to it. (Alternativly use a multimeter). Sounds to me like youve lost the supply to the lamps location Assuming youve checked fuse/trips,Did you wire it in yourself?,If not there might be a lightswitch size box nearby with a fuse holder and blown fuse. Track the wiring all the way back to make sure. If youve got power to the lamp then chuck it in the bin and buy a new one.They aren't that expensive. And bear in mind a cobbled up lamp setup could start a fire before the fuse/trip goes. >>>>> :sick: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scouser3038 1 Posted March 22, 2009 Report Share Posted March 22, 2009 Wet your fingers and hold the ends of the feed cable you are using, see if you've got power to it. Are you for f**king real ???? Take no notice to this idiot and go and get yourself a new light, for the sake of £8.00 I wouldnt be arsed f*****g about. You'll be pissing in the wind trying to rewire the light as the colour of cables in these cheap lights can vary, and make sure you connect the earth (green and yellow) its the most important cable in any circuit, 2 core cable is a no no for this reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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