Raccoons

[Hunting-top-shots 2]

fcuk me can this dog drive aswell

dont want to sound like a cock mucker but he looks like he,s never seen a days graft in his life

and saying that goods good

 

no he can't drive mate but he is me car alarm LOL !!!

and sorry now you sound like a cock mucker now but i dont blame you

we both know wish photo's are good and wish not good for on a board like this

 

Hi Terrierman1977.

 

sorry to upset ya but I have worked with this dog and I was impressed,

 

the first time that I had worked with Patterdales and Feck me what a

 

difference to the terriers that I had see up untill then here in Germany.

 

this dog is the reason that I will be getting one or 2 of the line that Eric has.

 

(Nuttall) well done and thanks to Brian N for a dog line that you can trust.

 

HTS

 

dont for get ronnie cloot mate whitout him i did not have any of thise black ones

 

Sorry Eric.

 

and at this point Heads up to you too Ronnie hope to meet you as well one day.

 

in the feld or in the bar I will be up for both.

 

HTS

[Pops 19]

20# coon has given my salukiXgrey the hardest fight of everything he's caught (this includes a doe deer alone & boar w/ other dogs)

that being said, I agree w/ Kye, a pit bull terrier isn't going to bring anything special to the table for killing coons. even crossing isn't necessary. about the only earth work here i'd seriously want a pit or pitX for is denning coyotes & maybe bobcats. everything else can be handled by good examples of working terrier breeds.

[Guest Chip]

great thread lads,i asked about racoons on a u.s terrier site years back and how they compared to a fox as game...got blanked .

some good insight,wish we had them here.

[Hunting-top-shots 2]

great thread lads,i asked about racoons on a u.s terrier site years back and how they compared to a fox as game...got blanked .

some good insight,wish we had them here.

 

 

Hi Chip,

 

be thankful that you aint got the feckers, they are a nightmare for all nests and pens that you would have for the birds, and other small animals.

 

The pic will give you an Idea of what the coons can do for damage, there were no boar in this part of the maiz so we thought that we were OK

 

untill I found this

HTS

[Hunting-top-shots 2]

I then went out with the .222 and waited for the Feckers.

 

 

it was worth the Wait

HTS

[sounder79 80]

Hi Sounder79,..

 

Yes mate, they go to ground...in old beaver holes, old ground hog holes, in trees, barns, houses, farm building, old cars, farm machinery,...ANYWHERE that warm, draft free, and dry.

 

Thanks FR,...as always, i dont get across very well in wrighting, what i mean in my head!..lmao...f*****g illiterate!... ...

 

The dig FR refers to, was, quite frankly, a f**k up!..lol...what should have taken 45 minutes, took 2.5hrs,...but anyone that says they have never made a mistake while hunting, would be a bullshitter!..lol.

 

The black dog pictured, is NOT the dog i mention,...

 

Kye,..

 

 

PS...no one needs to be breeding small pitsbulls to hunt coon!..lol...i have a half bred pit, half fell pup at the moment, but i didnt get her because of her bull blood...i was low on terriers, and a mate kindly offered her as a gift!...you certainly do NOT need bull blood in terriers full stop imo...but im not against it either...the right Bull, with the right Terrier can make VERY good dogs...ive dug to Bull x Terriers, that where very good dogs...

 

A coon, can and will kill a dog...in the wrong spot (water in a pipe is very dangerous!) and the wrong coon, it can be bad!...two seasons ago, me and FR spent a very cold 1.5hrs getting a dog out of some frozen ground...it was terrible...only about a foot deep!!!...FR used his 35lb bar to chip away at the ground, and i done what i could, but it was bad...we got the dog out, and im surprised he didnt go into shock...he was soaking wet, and although i cant remember how cold it was, it was in the negative range!...the dog took some stick, but if it had been a fox in there, im sure he would of been better off!...

 

Raccoons are NO joke guys...you will just have to take my word for it!..lol.

thanks for the info kye,so do coons have claws? how do they fight?

[Hunting-top-shots 2]

Hi Sounder79,..

 

Yes mate, they go to ground...in old beaver holes, old ground hog holes, in trees, barns, houses, farm building, old cars, farm machinery,...ANYWHERE that warm, draft free, and dry.

 

Thanks FR,...as always, i dont get across very well in wrighting, what i mean in my head!..lmao...f*****g illiterate!... ...

 

The dig FR refers to, was, quite frankly, a f**k up!..lol...what should have taken 45 minutes, took 2.5hrs,...but anyone that says they have never made a mistake while hunting, would be a bullshitter!..lol.

 

The black dog pictured, is NOT the dog i mention,...

 

Kye,..

 

 

PS...no one needs to be breeding small pitsbulls to hunt coon!..lol...i have a half bred pit, half fell pup at the moment, but i didnt get her because of her bull blood...i was low on terriers, and a mate kindly offered her as a gift!...you certainly do NOT need bull blood in terriers full stop imo...but im not against it either...the right Bull, with the right Terrier can make VERY good dogs...ive dug to Bull x Terriers, that where very good dogs...

 

A coon, can and will kill a dog...in the wrong spot (water in a pipe is very dangerous!) and the wrong coon, it can be bad!...two seasons ago, me and FR spent a very cold 1.5hrs getting a dog out of some frozen ground...it was terrible...only about a foot deep!!!...FR used his 35lb bar to chip away at the ground, and i done what i could, but it was bad...we got the dog out, and im surprised he didnt go into shock...he was soaking wet, and although i cant remember how cold it was, it was in the negative range!...the dog took some stick, but if it had been a fox in there, im sure he would of been better off!...

 

Raccoons are NO joke guys...you will just have to take my word for it!..lol.

thanks for the info kye,so do coons have claws? how do they fight?

 

 

not sure if a description of how they fight would be a good post but they also have the ability to hold things with the front paws while trying to latch on

 

but as was said earlier on this topic it is hard to hold something with a laky or a patterdale on ya throat.

 

thanks to all that have written on this post it has been very interesting and would hope to see some more before the topic ends up on page 13.

 

cheers and keep hunting I know I will

HTS

[marky r 25]

theres an american site were there using 4 or 5 fell terriers at a time hunting round barns and outbuildings in the straw and they have crow bars and hammers to ripp up the floors and walls when the dogs follow them between the cavitys bet thats a good day out.

[Hoss1 3]

not sure if a description of how they fight would be a good post but they also have the ability to hold things with the front paws while trying to latch on

 

but as was said earlier on this topic it is hard to hold something with a laky or a patterdale on ya throat.

 

thanks to all that have written on this post it has been very interesting and would hope to see some more before the topic ends up on page 13.

 

cheers and keep hunting I know I will

HTS

 

When you talk about them holding things, one thing to remember is that they will use those front feet/hands to grab a dog by the collar and pull the dog in so that they can work the head over. If you have a white dog with very little color covering its eyes the SOB's will offten time go for the dogs eyes also. The best description i've heard was from a buddy one time.......he says they are kunfoo fighters. LOL

[Pops 19]

more like jui jitsu

they'll lay on their back when the dog gets too close and light it up w/ all four sets of claws & teeth.

[southernsport 0]

In my opinion a coon can bring it to even the most talented dogs. I had Ms. Crackers in a farm shed with a 25lber in the middle of hay and machinery. That bitches has been worked on many badgers prior to crossing the pond and 10-15 mins into banging it down the bitch went to bay and stayed for the most part at bay till I got to her 45 mins later. Them coons have a way of making your dog think twice about staying hard. Just my opinion and experience. The great ones will stay hard but they won't stay active very long as retirement is just around the corner with them. SSK

[Waz 4,252]

Edited March 28, 2009 by GD Waz

[southernsport 0]

I understand your point but from what I know she was truely hunted on the animal and I don't bait a thing. As for me I don't import any dogs. I was mearly compairing the ability of the coon as a quarry nothing more nothing less. I appriciate your concern but I don't participate in anything illegal period. To be honest the fun is in the hunt bottom line. If you like above ground action get a pitt or something like that.

[southernsport 0]

As a matter of fact the bitch I am refuring to was my first dog some 35-40 years ago. Sorry for the confusion I had no idea.

[Yankee 1]

I understand your point but from what I know she was truely hunted on the animal and I don't bait a thing. As for me I don't import any dogs. I was mearly compairing the ability of the coon as a quarry nothing more nothing less. I appriciate your concern but I don't participate in anything illegal period. To be honest the fun is in the hunt bottom line. If you like above ground action get a pitt or something like that.

 

 

you really do not understand. it is all ilegal and unless the terrier that have worked badger across the pond as you put it are 37 years old then what you posted is still inapropriate. I personally wouod welcome a ban on the export of all working terriers outside of the united kingdom and Ireland, if only to stop the bastardisation of breeds with a truly unique and rich heritage.

 

 

I am wondering what pond the dog crossed as well as is it against the law everywhere to hunt badger on the planet ?

This is all things to think about before jumping on some one for a extra post count or attention !

Yankee