Raccoons

[Guest miller1989]

Surely any terrier which works foxes to ground would cope if youve a baying dog which sits off and mixes at times im sure it would be easily done for many of us!

[Hoss1 3]

Been around the traps this morning and had another one of these critters Nr 32 since May last year. they are in some of the fox sets that I have on the shoot and also in the trees, what do you think would a terrier put up against one of these?? the lab in the background is a normal bitch that comes in at about 32 Kg in the Hunting season.

 

Sorry that you could not come down this weekend Steezy I had the BBQ ready. Eric if you are on here check out the coon there will be more this one was a big male .

where is the beard hope to see you over here again will see if we can get hold of some of these for ya.

 

HTS

 

That looks to be a nice sized one. If you have a wild breeding population going on it will only be a matter of time before ya'll can find out what each is by getting the same dogs on both quarry.

Edited March 22, 2009 by Hoss1

[Hoss1 3]

Surely any terrier which works foxes to ground would cope if youve a baying dog which sits off and mixes at times im sure it would be easily done for many of us!

 

Most times a coon will only dish out what it gets. The problem I've found with a light mixer is that if they do not push hard enough the coon will just set in mid tube and not be pushed to a stop end, and I really don't like digging more holes than needed.

[Guest dances]

and I thought hick was anyone living IN texas

 

Isnt jessica simpson from texas shes great, I love her.

 

As for raccons the perfect dog is already in the USA the pit bull you just want to start breeding them small.

 

ps did anyone see the episode of South Park with cartman as the coon super hero it was great.

 

there is a strain i believe the mexican pitbull that can get to ground

[Hunting-top-shots 2]

Been around the traps this morning and had another one of these critters Nr 32 since May last year. they are in some of the fox sets that I have on the shoot and also in the trees, what do you think would a terrier put up against one of these?? the lab in the background is a normal bitch that comes in at about 32 Kg in the Hunting season.

 

Sorry that you could not come down this weekend Steezy I had the BBQ ready. Eric if you are on here check out the coon there will be more this one was a big male .

where is the beard hope to see you over here again will see if we can get hold of some of these for ya.

 

HTS

 

sorry that i was not able to come over on that short bazis but as soon me girl is home i will ask when she is a weekend home to watch the dogs and i will come whit a some of my terriers and we can look whats posseble whit them in the field

i have enough time ,,

 

Glad to hear that you are OK how are the dogs having a long deserved rest

will let you know when the next coon is in the trap don't think it will take long but this one was a big male and I thought of Killer.

 

as you know you are always welcom here will have to get something organised soon I have cut all the bushes and all of the

things that were in the way of the sets so we can see what and where there is movement.

 

Keep in touch and PM me your Mobile Nr

 

Cheers HTS

[baldockbanks courser 598]

iv herd theres plenty of coons living wild in london. any one worked one with a terrier?

[Guest dee mac]

iv herd theres plenty of coons living wild in london. any one worked one with a terrier?

[Guest miller1989]

Most times a coon will only dish out what it gets. The problem I've found with a light mixer is that if they do not push hard enough the coon will just set in mid tube and not be pushed to a stop end, and I really don't like digging more holes than needed.

 

So are coons harder than a fox? Im sure a good hard dog would make a job of it a black dog maybe usually hard digging dogs,if i lived near coons or had the chance then id use a strong mixer to push it on then sit and mix at the stop end!

 

 

iv herd theres plenty of coons living wild in london. any one worked one with a terrier?

 

Apsalute awsome pmsl

[Hunting-top-shots 2]

iv herd theres plenty of coons living wild in london. any one worked one with a terrier?

 

 

for the african strain they have got a dog its called a Ridgeback.

 

[F.R. 2]

Anything over 18 pounds is a testing animal for a terrier. Unfortunately, a dog on a coons throat isn't as straightforward as some would think, the coon has more tools than a fox, is incredibly flexible and has a powerful bite. A large coon is an incredibly strong animal and will use front and hind feet to ball up on the dog working with the leverage of the dog's collar nearly turning in it's own skin. Most of my experience with them has been with mixers in the earth and the larger coons certainly deal more injury per contact. The smaller ones seem more active and vocal but also have more room to maneuver.

 

The only coon approaching 30 pounds I recall seeing in my new locale introduced a very good terrier to baying. A coon will return what it receives from the dog with little problem in most cases.

thankyou for a very honest discription of your quarry.. what line of terrier do you keep.. and are the coons best bayed. or does a strong hard bitten terrier work better on them .. out of intrest can anyone terrier kill a fall grown coon. single handed. if not do you have to lay the terrier up to recover .or are they ready to go pretty quick......

A strong mixer, as said, that will push to a stop and hold them is ideal. I've not seen hard dogs on them, but they are a tough animal and it's rare to find one dead to ground. It happens, but routinely, not to my knowledge. A terrier with a knack will do so, but it's a knack. A decent lay off may be required like with anything, to say what usually happens is like with anything.....many variables just like with terriers. More so than the line of dog is the style, a mentally strong dog that doesn't like to be pushed about but will push if required and take what's necessary to see his work through. They are a fascinating animal, vocal, strong and incredibly intelligent and adaptable. A very worthy quarry for a terrier imo.

[Hoss1 3]

Anything over 18 pounds is a testing animal for a terrier. Unfortunately, a dog on a coons throat isn't as straightforward as some would think, the coon has more tools than a fox, is incredibly flexible and has a powerful bite. A large coon is an incredibly strong animal and will use front and hind feet to ball up on the dog working with the leverage of the dog's collar nearly turning in it's own skin. Most of my experience with them has been with mixers in the earth and the larger coons certainly deal more injury per contact. The smaller ones seem more active and vocal but also have more room to maneuver.

 

The only coon approaching 30 pounds I recall seeing in my new locale introduced a very good terrier to baying. A coon will return what it receives from the dog with little problem in most cases.

thankyou for a very honest discription of your quarry.. what line of terrier do you keep.. and are the coons best bayed. or does a strong hard bitten terrier work better on them .. out of intrest can anyone terrier kill a fall grown coon. single handed. if not do you have to lay the terrier up to recover .or are they ready to go pretty quick......

A strong mixer, as said, that will push to a stop and hold them is ideal. I've not seen hard dogs on them, but they are a tough animal and it's rare to find one dead to ground. It happens, but routinely, not to my knowledge. A terrier with a knack will do so, but it's a knack. A decent lay off may be required like with anything, to say what usually happens is like with anything.....many variables just like with terriers. More so than the line of dog is the style, a mentally strong dog that doesn't like to be pushed about but will push if required and take what's necessary to see his work through. They are a fascinating animal, vocal, strong and incredibly intelligent and adaptable. A very worthy quarry for a terrier imo.

 

 

FR, good post....you are alot better versed than I when it comes to the written word!

 

I'd just like to add that most dogs will never run into anything other than a human that can just grab them and just throuh them aside. The bigger coon can and will do so to a dog, and then just go on by them! Like you said alot has to do with the mentality of the dog. No matter what type of dog is used they need to have there mind right. JMO

[chrissy32 13]

one hole one dog a good digging terrier will plug it no problems at all :boogy: :boogy:

[erik 71]

i think this dog is good enough for the job ....

 

 

 

[Kye 77]

In my exsperiance, a fox is much easier for a dog to deal with,...

 

Ive seen a dog, that came from england, who some would class as a hard dog,..he was on a load of fox in England, and killed his first at 11 months....if he could get upto his fox, and the dig was over 20 minutes, the fox was dead...he was always to grips with earth dwelling game...

 

He killed his first coon (about 20lbs) the second coon he saw (27.5lbs) he was with for 2.5hrs...that coon made him bay for the first time, although it was only for a minute or two at most...the dog has since become a very reliable worker, although recently, has been laid up (maybe permantly retired) due to being hit buy a truck...the dog, although still always looking to come to grips, is what i would class as a mixer/bayer.

 

Ive worked what there is to work a terrier on in the UK...ive dug my fair share of Fox,...simply put, a Raccoon is a FORMIDABLE animal, that has to be seen to be beleaved!...

 

When RatKillah first came over, we had a good dog in on a coon in an old Beaver den, in a river bank (a VERY tricky spot!) and when he heard the sound of the dog and coon in combat, i said to him.."What size do you think that is then mate!"....he looked at me and said.."Gotta be around the 25-30lbs mark, surly to God!"...once dealt with, the coon was 16-18lbs...it was a very good animal, but no better than the average coon of that size in our area,...

 

As for some info on hunting terriers on coon on the net,...there are some sites, that use pics to sell dogs...NOTHING more!...i know of some sites, where there are pics of dogs with coon lined up infront of them, and the dogs in the pics didnt even get the coon!...and when they do get coon, they put a 'gang' of terriers on them...hardly what i would call fair, or a test, or even respectful!...infact, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth!..

 

When we hunt barns or buildings, we normaly drop one dog, two at most...if working two, when one finds the game before the other does, the other is lifted, and either held, or chained out...leaving the dog that found the game to do his work in peace,...

 

Kye,...

[Hunting-top-shots 2]

i think this dog is good enough for the job ....

 

 

Hey Eric,

 

I think I know this one and where is the little one then??

 

have you had the pups yet?=? PM me some pics

 

Cheers Mate

HTS