Guest Catcher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 it says somewhere on basc that all birds even like crows have to be classed as a pest first and if questioned by police you have to state that you have tried other means of pest control such as scarecrows and that shooting them is the last resort..... so yes ducks would have to be classed as pests.... No mate, that refers to birds that are on the vermin list, not birds classed as game/wildfowl. What do you think they do on driven shoots, breed thousands of pheasants, then class them as vermin? If you don't know the laws about what your supposed to be shooting, don't shoot it. I agree i dont shoot duck,s with an air rilfle.Why becuase if you dont get a clean kill.The duck or any other bird will just go down river or rest in the nearest weed,s and die a slow death.I do know the law,s on shooting as i have been doing so for a long time.What has pheasants got to do with duck shooting.Never heard of anyone who breed,s duck,s for a shoot ?.So you just keep telling young people its,s all right to shoot anything they want.By the way do you know if the young man in person has a dog to retreave the shot duck.s.If not more fool you.atb catcher. Quote Link to post
Shooter08 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 I agree i dont shoot duck,s with an air rilfle.Why becuase if you dont get a clean kill.The duck or any other bird will just go down river or rest in the nearest weed,s and die a slow death.I do know the law,s on shooting as i have been doing so for a long time.What has pheasants got to do with duck shooting.Never heard of anyone who breed,s duck,s for a shoot ?.So you just keep telling young people its,s all right to shoot anything they want.By the way do you know if the young man in person has a dog to retreave the shot duck.s.If not more fool you.atb catcher. im not having ago here mate, but what about all the ducks that get pricked with a shotgun that dont get a clean kill ? surely thats just as bad as been pricked with a air rifle, i wont take a shot at any quarry inless i no its going to be a quick clean kill, if you know your not going to kill it out right, dont even bother trying! Quote Link to post
Guest Catcher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Hi mate I agree but we are talking about a fourteen year old.Who want,s to shoot duck with an air rilfle.No one can say they have 100 persent clean kill rate So i would say to the lad.Get a few more year,s under your belt and have a good trained dog that know.s how to work water.atb catcher Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 it says somewhere on basc that all birds even like crows have to be classed as a pest first and if questioned by police you have to state that you have tried other means of pest control such as scarecrows and that shooting them is the last resort..... so yes ducks would have to be classed as pests.... No mate, that refers to birds that are on the vermin list, not birds classed as game/wildfowl. What do you think they do on driven shoots, breed thousands of pheasants, then class them as vermin? If you don't know the laws about what your supposed to be shooting, don't shoot it. I agree i dont shoot duck,s with an air rilfle.Why becuase if you dont get a clean kill.The duck or any other bird will just go down river or rest in the nearest weed,s and die a slow death.I do know the law,s on shooting as i have been doing so for a long time.What has pheasants got to do with duck shooting.Never heard of anyone who breed,s duck,s for a shoot ?.So you just keep telling young people its,s all right to shoot anything they want.By the way do you know if the young man in person has a dog to retreave the shot duck.s.If not more fool you.atb catcher. Now hang on, I haven't told anybody that it right to shoot ducks with an air rifle. The original poster asked IS IT LEGAL not is it ethical. Aye you trying to say that we should be patronising and just tell the young 'uns half truths because it doesn't fit in with our beliefs? And as for asking what have pheasants got to do with duck shooting, I was making a distinction between vermin and game, if you're not bright enough to work that out, then you're the fool. TBH, I just think you've got a bitter taste in your mouth because you cant find any evidence to back up what you stated as fact a few pages ago. ...and I also thought you said a few pages ago that that would be your last comment on the matter. Don't seem like you're a man of your word either... Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 So can someone answer the lads question is it LEGAL and have a definite answer that they can truthfully no questions asked say is legal. Quote Link to post
Shooter08 0 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 if the ducks are in season, and you have permission! yes! Quote Link to post
Guest Catcher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 it says somewhere on basc that all birds even like crows have to be classed as a pest first and if questioned by police you have to state that you have tried other means of pest control such as scarecrows and that shooting them is the last resort..... so yes ducks would have to be classed as pests.... No mate, that refers to birds that are on the vermin list, not birds classed as game/wildfowl. What do you think they do on driven shoots, breed thousands of pheasants, then class them as vermin? If you don't know the laws about what your supposed to be shooting, don't shoot it. I agree i dont shoot duck,s with an air rilfle.Why becuase if you dont get a clean kill.The duck or any other bird will just go down river or rest in the nearest weed,s and die a slow death.I do know the law,s on shooting as i have been doing so for a long time.What has pheasants got to do with duck shooting.Never heard of anyone who breed,s duck,s for a shoot ?.So you just keep telling young people its,s all right to shoot anything they want.By the way do you know if the young man in person has a dog to retreave the shot duck.s.If not more fool you.atb catcher. Now hang on, I haven't told anybody that it right to shoot ducks with an air rifle. The original poster asked IS IT LEGAL not is it ethical. Aye you trying to say that we should be patronising and just tell the young 'uns half truths because it doesn't fit in with our beliefs? And as for asking what have pheasants got to do with duck shooting, I was making a distinction between vermin and game, if you're not bright enough to work that out, then you're the fool. TBH, I just think you've got a bitter taste in your mouth because you cant find any evidence to back up what you stated as fact a few pages ago. ...and I also thought you said a few pages ago that that would be your last comment on the matter. Don't seem like you're a man of your word either... I may stand corrected on law young man.but Enlgand and Scotland law,s are not the same.I still say it is unlawful to shoot a wild duck with an air rilfle.atb .catcher Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Pheasant: Oct 1 - Feb 1 Partridge: Sept 1 - Feb 1 Grouse: Aug 12 - Dec 10 Ptarmigan: Aug 12 - Dec 10 Blackgrouse: Aug 20 - Dec 10 Snipe: Aug 12 - Jan 31 Jack Snipe: protected Woodcock: Oct 1 - Jan 31 Woodcock (Scotland): Sept 1 - Jan 31 Duck & Goose (inland): Sept 1 - Jan 31 Duck & Goose (below high water mark): Sept 1 - Feb 20 Coot/Moorhen: Sept 1 - Jan 31 Golden Plover: Sept 1 - Jan 31 Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 it says somewhere on basc that all birds even like crows have to be classed as a pest first and if questioned by police you have to state that you have tried other means of pest control such as scarecrows and that shooting them is the last resort..... so yes ducks would have to be classed as pests.... No mate, that refers to birds that are on the vermin list, not birds classed as game/wildfowl. What do you think they do on driven shoots, breed thousands of pheasants, then class them as vermin? If you don't know the laws about what your supposed to be shooting, don't shoot it. I agree i dont shoot duck,s with an air rilfle.Why becuase if you dont get a clean kill.The duck or any other bird will just go down river or rest in the nearest weed,s and die a slow death.I do know the law,s on shooting as i have been doing so for a long time.What has pheasants got to do with duck shooting.Never heard of anyone who breed,s duck,s for a shoot ?.So you just keep telling young people its,s all right to shoot anything they want.By the way do you know if the young man in person has a dog to retreave the shot duck.s.If not more fool you.atb catcher. Now hang on, I haven't told anybody that it right to shoot ducks with an air rifle. The original poster asked IS IT LEGAL not is it ethical. Aye you trying to say that we should be patronising and just tell the young 'uns half truths because it doesn't fit in with our beliefs? And as for asking what have pheasants got to do with duck shooting, I was making a distinction between vermin and game, if you're not bright enough to work that out, then you're the fool. TBH, I just think you've got a bitter taste in your mouth because you cant find any evidence to back up what you stated as fact a few pages ago. ...and I also thought you said a few pages ago that that would be your last comment on the matter. Don't seem like you're a man of your word either... I may stand corrected on law young man.but Enlgand and Scotland law,s are not the same.I still say it is unlawful to shoot a wild duck with an air rilfle.atb .catcher Bollocks to it! Legal or not, this question always provokes a decent 'debate' on here! Quote Link to post
Guest Catcher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Pheasant: Oct 1 - Feb 1 Partridge: Sept 1 - Feb 1 Grouse: Aug 12 - Dec 10 Ptarmigan: Aug 12 - Dec 10 Blackgrouse: Aug 20 - Dec 10 Snipe: Aug 12 - Jan 31 Jack Snipe: protected Woodcock: Oct 1 - Jan 31 Woodcock (Scotland): Sept 1 - Jan 31 Duck & Goose (inland): Sept 1 - Jan 31 Duck & Goose (below high water mark): Sept 1 - Feb 20 Coot/Moorhen: Sept 1 - Jan 31 Golden Plover: Sept 1 - Jan 31 If that U.K or England :whistling:I rest my case. Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yep sure is for england! Quote Link to post
Guest Catcher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Yep sure is for england! Hi mate so no Scotland.catcher Quote Link to post
Guest air gunner Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Erm yep i think it applys for Scotland too but dont quote me on that. Quote Link to post
Guest Catcher Posted March 24, 2009 Report Share Posted March 24, 2009 Erm yep i think it applys for Scotland too but dont quote me on that. Cheer,s mate.atb .catcher Quote Link to post
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