eddie42 0 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 hi all. this is just out of interest but what are the differences between training a cocker and a springer if any ? one been any easy than the other . Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 Generally speaking the springer is a bit more easy going, cockers are that bit harder to tame. But saying that I moved to working cockers instead of using the more popular springers, as they seem to suit me better... Im not one to help you with training, as Im not a typical spaniel worker, mine might be in the beating line one day and hunting rabbits or foxes the next. Quote Link to post
Guest ESS Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 hi all.this is just out of interest but what are the differences between training a cocker and a springer if any ? one been any easy than the other . A PAIR OF ADDIDAS WELLIES IS USUALLY REQUIRED IN ORDER FOR TRAINING COCKERS...A LARGE PACKET OF FAGS AND SOME EQUINE CALM NOT FOR THE DOG FOR YOU.. Butcher Boy ,Druimmuir or Wilthenmoor are the ones to ask.. Regards Steve Quote Link to post
butcherboy 68 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 (edited) A lot of cockers a very soft these days so you need to be gentle with them. I've just started a training programme with my young pup & she would collapse if I bollocked her. so it's a case of gently putting her right EVERY time she does wrong. One of the hardest thinks to do is to get a cocker to sit!!!!!! Edited March 13, 2009 by butcherboy Quote Link to post
eddie42 0 Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 A lot of cockers a very soft these days so you need to be gentle with them. I've just started a training programme with my young pup & she would collapse if I bollocked her. so it's a case of gently putting her right EVERY time she does wrong. One of the hardest thinks to do is to get a cocker to sit!!!!!! hi lads, thanks for the replies would you say generally speaking cockers are more biddable /trainable than springers ? is they much difference between cocker lines ? thanks again. Quote Link to post
farmerrich 1 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Im not one to help you with training, as Im not a typical spaniel worker, mine might be in the beating line one day and hunting rabbits or foxes the next. Dont you mean in the beating line one MINUITE and hunting rabbits and foxes the next. lol Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Im not one to help you with training, as Im not a typical spaniel worker, mine might be in the beating line one day and hunting rabbits or foxes the next. Dont you mean in the beating line one MINUITE and hunting rabbits and foxes the next. lol lol Quote Link to post
herefordian 11 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 A lot of cockers a very soft these days so you need to be gentle with them. I've just started a training programme with my young pup & she would collapse if I bollocked her. so it's a case of gently putting her right EVERY time she does wrong. One of the hardest thinks to do is to get a cocker to sit!!!!!! Know what you mean when you bollock em! ive a six month old bitch goes into a ball if you raise your voice to her Quote Link to post
ferret_uk 4 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 i am just starting to train my springer bitch the basics and believe me its hard but very rewarding at the end of it ATB Ferret_uk Quote Link to post
activeviii 8 Posted March 18, 2009 Report Share Posted March 18, 2009 A lot of cockers a very soft these days so you need to be gentle with them. I've just started a training programme with my young pup & she would collapse if I bollocked her. so it's a case of gently putting her right EVERY time she does wrong. One of the hardest thinks to do is to get a cocker to sit!!!!!! my cocker is now 6mths best thing since sliced bread. not a day goes by with out him having me in stitches. so loving but to far up my bum at times. (house dog) sitting, god i know what you mean. he can sit nicely but then he falls in the hole that hes just dug with his tail, it moves so fast that he just cant sit on it. cracks me up. not had springers so cant answer on that one. yes there is a difference in lines, when looking for one i did my home work and was told loads by breeders, i soon learnt not to listen to them, they want to sell there pups. instead i read books, dvds and asked im forums. one thing that came about was the field trial breed dogs can be a little to fast and softer where as a field cocker is a little harder and slower. a FT trainer wants his title where as a gamekeeper wants his birds back.and all of them. hes dog works all day everyday of the sesson. sorry if your a FT and a picker upper, no offence just what i had heard a fair few times. Phil Quote Link to post
eddie42 0 Posted March 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 hi phil, thanks for replying,it,s a long winded thing this ! i have a lab which is coming up nine this year so started to lock around for a replacement for one reason or another could not find what i was looking for started thinking about cockers, how easy would it be to go from a laid backed lab, to a spaniel !! the dog would be used for beating / picking up. thanks again. Quote Link to post
butcherboy 68 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 hi phil,thanks for replying,it,s a long winded thing this ! i have a lab which is coming up nine this year so started to lock around for a replacement for one reason or another could not find what i was looking for started thinking about cockers, how easy would it be to go from a laid backed lab, to a spaniel !! the dog would be used for beating / picking up. thanks again. Going from a lab to a cocker will be the best thing you can do!! You'll actually start having fun with your dog Quote Link to post
v-max 2 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Hi i got a cocker dog two & a bit years ago. I found the cocker more timmid but mental & found it was more a case of very repetative work to wear them down & get the measage. Iv got 3 labs had 4 bred them all apart from my first bitch & found them very easy compared to cocker as he was more fun/challenge to train & i gave up on heel work with him. I started working him at 14/15 months old & very little probs even i thick cover & just finished our 2nd season with him & he is a joy to work/drive in the beating line & puts many others to shame. My only hate is his consistant urge to jump up on me as i hate that & he wants me to touch him all the time or if the line stops or waitting he is a pain to anoy for attention. I also get probs with his ear getting damage from cover & his hair in the cuts & they go pussie but other than that they are a fun wee breed but i think i will leave it for a while before i get another. Quote Link to post
j davies 8 Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 A lot of cockers a very soft these days so you need to be gentle with them. I've just started a training programme with my young pup & she would collapse if I bollocked her. so it's a case of gently putting her right EVERY time she does wrong. One of the hardest thinks to do is to get a cocker to sit!!!!!! Know what you mean when you bollock em! ive a six month old bitch goes into a ball if you raise your voice to her i have an 8 month old cocker bitch got her off a keeper god she is a hand full work like hell want listen yet but the brain to be one good dog if i shout at her she just smiles at me and carrys on lol she is going to make one good dog. hope to get herto fetch dunnys back at the game fair this year if she fetches them back to me she will take some beating. Quote Link to post
eddie42 0 Posted March 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 hi phil,thanks for replying,it,s a long winded thing this ! i have a lab which is coming up nine this year so started to lock around for a replacement for one reason or another could not find what i was looking for started thinking about cockers, how easy would it be to go from a laid backed lab, to a spaniel !! the dog would be used for beating / picking up. thanks again. hi all, thanks for replying, it,s good to hear from others . i know of a few lads that work cockers they seem to have no real problems, no more than anybody else (lab or cocker) . i think i will steer towards a cocker dog, been going through the ads they is such a difference in price anything up to £750 for a 10 week old pup. anything to keep away from ? phil mentioned about f t dogs been more scatty than working lines, anyone else found this or anything similar ? what about breeders in the northeast area. thanks again for the replies Quote Link to post
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