TOMO 27,405 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 ask your self this , can you mate a solid coulered dog to a merl. yes of course. can you mate two merls together NO. SO WHERES THE DEFECT COMING FROM??? that dont stop merle dog from perfoming in the field though tomo it just means your not supposed to line merle to merle that is not a defect in any way its simply just a gene clash when 2 merle dogs mate very true micky the merl wont stop them performing in the field, so why dont they perform in the field sorry i couldnt resist i take it you have a hancock merl. i better just mention i have had one , about 20 year ago but come on why line a pupy pedlers pocket. now i remember on this site evtybody getting on that kids case from scotland , who's always selling pups and old dogs. but you all stck up for hancock me hancock no chance i have a red merle beardie/whip/grey which does the buisness for me tomo and he does do the buisness there is alot of merles other than hancock crap if you had read through this post you would see i was against hancocks dogs cause i aint seen a good one yet we agree then it was just my comment about merls. no probs. by the way there must be border colie in your dog cos berdies dont have the merl gene Quote Link to post
NO 1 HUNTER 1 Posted March 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 just wondering what you lads think Who cares ????? The subject has been done to death over the last 20 - 30 years............... Cheers. dose that not sound misserable to anyone! Well, you ARE the "Number One Hunter" !!! (LOL !!! Probably about 16 or 17 year old !!); So I'll bow to youre suprerior knowledge Bye Cheers. lol number 1 hunter i got the chance of a 3/4 bred beardie/grey bitch pup 3 month old.sire 1st cross put to a a1 grey 2 lads on here have got pups off this litter and are over the moon the last litter from the sire to a same type grey made excellent allround dogs sire proven on all quarry and this would not cost you £200 hancock couldnt say any of his dam/sires are proven on all quarry so to me i think you making the wrong move thanks alot for ya advice mate but i'm going to stick to my guns cheers i've seen my fair share of hancock dogs in the field and cant say i've seen a good one just average the best one out of them all was a 27tts 3/4 stunning it new how to win a show and that was it lol i'm looking for a first cross beardie/grey have been for a while but i wont take one from second rate dogs its just not worth it think about it mate whats the rush once you get the dog its there for good or it should be thanks micky but i've been thinking about it for a while now and i'm sure its what i want Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 ask your self this , can you mate a solid coulered dog to a merl. yes of course. can you mate two merls together NO. SO WHERES THE DEFECT COMING FROM??? that dont stop merle dog from perfoming in the field though tomo it just means your not supposed to line merle to merle that is not a defect in any way its simply just a gene clash when 2 merle dogs mate very true micky the merl wont stop them performing in the field, so why dont they perform in the field sorry i couldnt resist i take it you have a hancock merl. i better just mention i have had one , about 20 year ago but come on why line a pupy pedlers pocket. now i remember on this site evtybody getting on that kids case from scotland , who's always selling pups and old dogs. but you all stck up for hancock me hancock no chance i have a red merle beardie/whip/grey which does the buisness for me tomo and he does do the buisness there is alot of merles other than hancock crap if you had read through this post you would see i was against hancocks dogs cause i aint seen a good one yet we agree then it was just my comment about merls. no probs. by the way there must be border colie in your dog cos berdies dont have the merl gene alot of collies will have been crossed years ago tomo you no that which is why there are kc beardies which are merle or carry a merle gene is that right do correct me if im wrong Quote Link to post
TOMO 27,405 Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 to be honest miky i didn't know that, always thought merl was just the border, but what you say makes sence. im shure most of the old shepards mixed there dogs up depending on working qualitys . rather than just staying pure for the sake of it. lern sommat new all the time Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted March 12, 2009 Report Share Posted March 12, 2009 to be honest miky i didn't know that, always thought merl was just the border, but what you say makes sence. im shure most of the old shepards mixed there dogs up depending on working qualitys . rather than just staying pure for the sake of it. lern sommat new all the time you sure do its the same as some strains of whippets which are really grews as generations ago greys were introduced to whippets and brindel is also a gene but not as severe as the merle gene Quote Link to post
bullcross1 10 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 dont do it number one armchair hunter lol. To be honest the way you were hitting that bag the the other night mate id give up the dog game and start dancing or summitt. You only allowed out with the muts when the girlfriend lets ya anyways Quote Link to post
NO 1 HUNTER 1 Posted March 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 dont do it number one armchair hunter lol. To be honest the way you were hitting that bag the the other night mate id give up the dog game and start dancing or summitt. You only allowed out with the muts when the girlfriend lets ya anyways ya must of been looking in the mirror the other night mate coz i float like a butterfly and sting like a bee and about not being able to go out with the dogs ya know ya got the wrong person with that one have ya been killing next season game lately Quote Link to post
bullcross1 10 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Share Posted March 16, 2009 dont do it number one armchair hunter lol. To be honest the way you were hitting that bag the the other night mate id give up the dog game and start dancing or summitt. You only allowed out with the muts when the girlfriend lets ya anyways ya must of been looking in the mirror the other night mate coz i float like a butterfly and sting like a bee and about not being able to go out with the dogs ya know ya got the wrong person with that one have ya been killing next season game lately a kill owt that moves son, ya should no that by now haha Quote Link to post
Jack Dark 2 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 I had a Hancock ¼ Beardie/Border ¾ Greyhond for (sire Maurice, Dam Nell 2 if I remember correctly) 15 years, he took to training very quickly and never showed me up. Only hunted rabbits really thought he did take a few hares and even a fox he found in my back garden (before the ban) and had a hatred of squirrels and would kill them on sight if he could. He also bushed to gun and would I think try and do just about anything I asked apart that is from running on rabbits that he knew full well he had no chance of catching, if some folks this is a fault then it was and is a fault I can live with and even admire. I retired him around 11 though he was still keen and marking well until he got to old to get out and about. Quote Link to post
bigkiel 7 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Share Posted May 12, 2009 just wondering what you lads think i got a 5/8 3/8 off hancock she is now 22 month old and hasnt put a foot wrong shes been fantastic so far she will get tested this season and the dog is what u make it good look mate let me kno how you get on Quote Link to post
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