Panna 68 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I can't believe this, I thought it was bad enough us being pushed out of work by cheap labour from abroad, now it looks like our dogs are going to be without graft with all this interest in jagd terriers and what not!!! British jobs for British Dogs I say!!! Hehehehe . Relax yourself by thinking of that the Jagd terrier is made of British dogs (Fox terrier, and working Lakeland / Welsh terrier). ;) Anna Quote Link to post
Nino (Italy) 13 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 This is "Emme", my Jagdterrier bitch. She works and win in shows, is about 13" and 1/4. Quote Link to post
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 I can't believe this, I thought it was bad enough us being pushed out of work by cheap labour from abroad, now it looks like our dogs are going to be without graft with all this interest in jagd terriers and what not!!! British jobs for British Dogs I say!!! Hehehehe . Relax yourself by thinking of that the Jagd terrier is made of British dogs (Fox terrier, and working Lakeland / Welsh terrier). ;) Anna Dont worry Panna it was a joke, we tell jokes over here in the UK dear . Quote Link to post
Nino (Italy) 13 Posted March 13, 2009 Report Share Posted March 13, 2009 Yes it is real, this dog is made by english fox terriers and black and tan terriers, before the II World War by few german breeder. In Europe is the last real working terrier Quote Link to post
Running 7 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 what was the reason? and its a bit strong saying it is the last working terrier in europe? what gives them edge?apart from legally working where you are i am sure they are more then a few terriers who would excel givern the chance Quote Link to post
Panna 68 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 what was the reason? and its a bit strong saying it is the last working terrier in europe? what gives them edge?apart from legally working where you are i am sure they are more then a few terriers who would excel givern the chance I think the first and foremost thing is that this type was bred and kept by fanatics and it had a LOT in the old continent - in opposite with the other terrier types. They didn't bear "almost good" (in any breed). Secondly the Jagd terrier was an all rounder, and worked under- and above ground and in the water too. While most terriers are good in a specific thing, the Jagd is an all rounder. As quite a hard dog it mostly went to pension very early, so the price was also getting down. Also important that the Jagd isn't a nice or showy dog in any meaning and hunters prefer to gve them only to other hunters, not to be a pet. Most of the other terrier breeds arrived to the old continet are show dogs and not working dogs. And one last, interesting thing I saw: people don't really like bay to bolt dogs, they say "it only barks, it isn't game enough to get in close contact with the quarry". They like to see gameness, they like to see evidence of work. And they like to dig. We are here some Parson Russell terrier owners work their dogs and you can't believe what feedback we start with. They say, the dog needs strongful body and punishing jaws. And a dog with 6 kilos and 12" may not work anything underground. When they see my PRT working, some get amazed and some just say "it was pure luck". So the thing is not easy. But it's even not sure ot needs to be other. I would not take a hard dog as it doesn't fit to my ideas. I accept that soem think of it other way. Just my 5 Cents. Anna Quote Link to post
Nino (Italy) 13 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 I have some problem to translate... I think,(by my understanding) that the words of Anna are right. The 90% of the terriers of the continent are show dogs and not working dogs,the only breed who is only breeded and used exclusively for hunting is Jagdterriers and who have a Jagdterrier is an hunter! On 100 Jagds, 95 are owned by hunters and only 5 are pets;the other terriers are 95 pets and only 5 are workdogs. SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH Quote Link to post
Nino (Italy) 13 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 The bitches have to pass a work test before to be mated and the stallions too. Quote Link to post
Panna 68 Posted March 14, 2009 Report Share Posted March 14, 2009 dont jagds have to pass a hunting test to be bred from they are tested at fox badger racoon dog and hunting boar and retrieving from water. Correct, there is a working test for them. In case someone wants to breed pedigreed dogs. Anna Quote Link to post
Running 7 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 the english kc could learn a lot there is seems a working test befor it can be bred is a winner for sure Quote Link to post
Panna 68 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 the english kc could learn a lot there is seems a working test befor it can be bred is a winner for sure Yes, but sadly it is only for the Jagd terrier. Not for any other working terrier breed. Anna Quote Link to post
Nino (Italy) 13 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 the english kc could learn a lot there is seems a working test befor it can be bred is a winner for sure Yes but.... often this is a "double cut" arm,because owners and breeders train the dogs only and exclusively for working tests and omits the real hunting work,only to win cups in this pseudo-working circuit! The result is a dog who "flies" in working trials and go slowly in real work. Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 This is 1 breed of dog i have looked at for the last thew years there so game but intelligent at the same time Quote Link to post
Nino (Italy) 13 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Can I post videos here???? Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted March 15, 2009 Report Share Posted March 15, 2009 Can I post videos here???? I think you have to go vire a link Quote Link to post
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