Guest manda Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 forgive me if i sound like a dribbling idiot here but............... if your out for a bit of a mooch to see whats about you would stop either when you had as many rabbits as you need and or before you wear your dog out! or if your out for a big bag for pest control you would do every thing possible to stack the odds in the dogs favour, get between the rabbit and cover, get you and dog as close to the rabbit as possible and run one (dog) rest one ect! cant help feeling that people loose sight of what its all about in the face of "big bags" and " my dog can do this or that", we all like to see big bags and probably dream of our own red letter day but i cant see the point in having to or trying to prove you can catch more than the next bloke or that your dog has more go than the next! stamina has to be important but surely the dog that works out how to catch its prey quickly and over the shortest disstance will catch more than the dog that just runs and runs? i dont care if my dog only ever catches a ball hes still the best dog in the world because hes mine! cheers hyperion Good post but my dogs can still catch more balls than yours lol Quote Link to post
Guest hyperion Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Good post but my dogs can still catch more balls than yours lol blaine caught my balls with his foot at half five this morning!, better than any alarm clock that was! Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,222 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 forgive me if i sound like a dribbling idiot here but............... if your out for a bit of a mooch to see whats about you would stop either when you had as many rabbits as you need and or before you wear your dog out! or if your out for a big bag for pest control you would do every thing possible to stack the odds in the dogs favour, get between the rabbit and cover, get you and dog as close to the rabbit as possible and run one (dog) rest one ect! cant help feeling that people loose sight of what its all about in the face of "big bags" and " my dog can do this or that", we all like to see big bags and probably dream of our own red letter day but i cant see the point in having to or trying to prove you can catch more than the next bloke or that your dog has more go than the next! stamina has to be important but surely the dog that works out how to catch its prey quickly and over the shortest disstance will catch more than the dog that just runs and runs? i dont care if my dog only ever catches a ball hes still the best dog in the world because hes mine! cheers hyperion thats a fair point mate i have great pleasure in just going out for a few, in fact i did this monday gone , just a wander local in the day dog and fert 5 rabbits , loads of fun for me the big bags are not about trying to be top dog lamper man , its just trying to see what my what my dogs are capable of , a bit like a coursing dog that done the 3 from 3. alot of owners will then push for 4 or 5 or legendery 6 from 6, i supose it come down to how competative you are as an owner. of course the big bags dont mean a hole heap realy, its how much you get out of you dog that counts Quote Link to post
Miss Tarka 3 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Ok......First things first.....Trigger that is an impressive bag and like i said in my last post on your last topic if it works or you then fair enough...... Secondly....most people were not doubting what your dog was capable of as such they were just asking for proof...and today you did that.....what they were doubting and disagreeing with was the way your pups are brought on at such an early age.....at the end of the day wether your 8week old pup manages to overcome obstacles and everything else thrown in its way with out injury then thats fine, but at 8weeks old a puppy is not fully vaccinated to go outside so could catch any disease going.....dont get me wrong after my jrt's first jab she was going on short walks to get her used to the lead...noises...little things she may encounter but not 4hour walks where she could say get quite a bad cut from a loose bit of barbed wire fencing or similar which could transmitt god knows what into her system......that was the main arguement that people were presenting...... The one thing that does confuse me is running dogs doubled up on a rabbit....i know you've explained your reasons for this many times so im not asking for you to do it again but still it confuses me......on your last post someone put that 'experienced dog dont collide with one another but inexperienced ones do'..or something along those lines..i can't remember who wrote this but i have seen experienced dogs collide whilst running doubled up and the outcome wasnt pretty....no surely putting two dogs on one rabbit is not the point of the sport....gives the rabbit less then a 50/50 chance of getting away and on quarry as small as a rabbit does come with greater risks of injury to ones dog......... I dont really have alot else to say at then end of the day you have proved that Trigger does indeed do very well but it seems he would equally as well on his own yet appears you prefer to run him doubled up most of the time..... one last thing though Deerman why do you keep calling Mickyrichardson Bigman??? Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Ok......First things first.....Trigger that is an impressive bag and like i said in my last post on your last topic if it works or you then fair enough......Secondly....most people were not doubting what your dog was capable of as such they were just asking for proof...and today you did that.....what they were doubting and disagreeing with was the way your pups are brought on at such an early age.....at the end of the day wether your 8week old pup manages to overcome obstacles and everything else thrown in its way with out injury then thats fine, but at 8weeks old a puppy is not fully vaccinated to go outside so could catch any disease going.....dont get me wrong after my jrt's first jab she was going on short walks to get her used to the lead...noises...little things she may encounter but not 4hour walks where she could say get quite a bad cut from a loose bit of barbed wire fencing or similar which could transmitt god knows what into her system......that was the main arguement that people were presenting...... The one thing that does confuse me is running dogs doubled up on a rabbit....i know you've explained your reasons for this many times so im not asking for you to do it again but still it confuses me......on your last post someone put that 'experienced dog dont collide with one another but inexperienced ones do'..or something along those lines..i can't remember who wrote this but i have seen experienced dogs collide whilst running doubled up and the outcome wasnt pretty....no surely putting two dogs on one rabbit is not the point of the sport....gives the rabbit less then a 50/50 chance of getting away and on quarry as small as a rabbit does come with greater risks of injury to ones dog......... I dont really have alot else to say at then end of the day you have proved that Trigger does indeed do very well but it seems he would equally as well on his own yet appears you prefer to run him doubled up most of the time..... one last thing though Deerman why do you keep calling Mickyrichardson Bigman??? miss t he must have been watching me in the toilets Quote Link to post
Guest manda Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 you can but dream HA HA lol Quote Link to post
Miss Tarka 3 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Ok......First things first.....Trigger that is an impressive bag and like i said in my last post on your last topic if it works or you then fair enough......Secondly....most people were not doubting what your dog was capable of as such they were just asking for proof...and today you did that.....what they were doubting and disagreeing with was the way your pups are brought on at such an early age.....at the end of the day wether your 8week old pup manages to overcome obstacles and everything else thrown in its way with out injury then thats fine, but at 8weeks old a puppy is not fully vaccinated to go outside so could catch any disease going.....dont get me wrong after my jrt's first jab she was going on short walks to get her used to the lead...noises...little things she may encounter but not 4hour walks where she could say get quite a bad cut from a loose bit of barbed wire fencing or similar which could transmitt god knows what into her system......that was the main arguement that people were presenting...... The one thing that does confuse me is running dogs doubled up on a rabbit....i know you've explained your reasons for this many times so im not asking for you to do it again but still it confuses me......on your last post someone put that 'experienced dog dont collide with one another but inexperienced ones do'..or something along those lines..i can't remember who wrote this but i have seen experienced dogs collide whilst running doubled up and the outcome wasnt pretty....no surely putting two dogs on one rabbit is not the point of the sport....gives the rabbit less then a 50/50 chance of getting away and on quarry as small as a rabbit does come with greater risks of injury to ones dog......... I dont really have alot else to say at then end of the day you have proved that Trigger does indeed do very well but it seems he would equally as well on his own yet appears you prefer to run him doubled up most of the time..... one last thing though Deerman why do you keep calling Mickyrichardson Bigman??? miss t he must have been watching me in the toilets haha............putting images like that into a young girls head.....you'll make me blush... Quote Link to post
Guest grit Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Your dog sounds like it could probably do a fair job on it's own, and if what you say is true, then obviously that method worked on that dog, But my nan smoked fags a day and lived to be 97, Just because it worked for her, don't make it right. There as been real good dogs that did not go out until 12 or 18 months of age,i do admit,if the same dogs went out at a very young age there is a chance they would have been great .If your nan never smoked she may have lived well over an hundred good answer grit , yes she may have lived over 100 of course you could reverse that theroy and say if you , started your pups later they may have been better the trouble is like most things its just speculation , and diffrent peoples opinions will always differ Try it give 4 weeks.It,s not speculation Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 you can but dream HA HA lolwell im only 5ft so dont think he talking about my height Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,222 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Your dog sounds like it could probably do a fair job on it's own, and if what you say is true, then obviously that method worked on that dog, But my nan smoked fags a day and lived to be 97, Just because it worked for her, don't make it right. There as been real good dogs that did not go out until 12 or 18 months of age,i do admit,if the same dogs went out at a very young age there is a chance they would have been great .If your nan never smoked she may have lived well over an hundred good answer grit , yes she may have lived over 100 of course you could reverse that theroy and say if you , started your pups later they may have been better the trouble is like most things its just speculation , and diffrent peoples opinions will always differ Try it give 4 weeks.It,s not speculation I dont understand grit give what 4 weeks?? Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Ok......First things first.....Trigger that is an impressive bag and like i said in my last post on your last topic if it works or you then fair enough......Secondly....most people were not doubting what your dog was capable of as such they were just asking for proof...and today you did that.....what they were doubting and disagreeing with was the way your pups are brought on at such an early age.....at the end of the day wether your 8week old pup manages to overcome obstacles and everything else thrown in its way with out injury then thats fine, but at 8weeks old a puppy is not fully vaccinated to go outside so could catch any disease going.....dont get me wrong after my jrt's first jab she was going on short walks to get her used to the lead...noises...little things she may encounter but not 4hour walks where she could say get quite a bad cut from a loose bit of barbed wire fencing or similar which could transmitt god knows what into her system......that was the main arguement that people were presenting...... The one thing that does confuse me is running dogs doubled up on a rabbit....i know you've explained your reasons for this many times so im not asking for you to do it again but still it confuses me......on your last post someone put that 'experienced dog dont collide with one another but inexperienced ones do'..or something along those lines..i can't remember who wrote this but i have seen experienced dogs collide whilst running doubled up and the outcome wasnt pretty....no surely putting two dogs on one rabbit is not the point of the sport....gives the rabbit less then a 50/50 chance of getting away and on quarry as small as a rabbit does come with greater risks of injury to ones dog......... I dont really have alot else to say at then end of the day you have proved that Trigger does indeed do very well but it seems he would equally as well on his own yet appears you prefer to run him doubled up most of the time..... one last thing though Deerman why do you keep calling Mickyrichardson Bigman??? miss t he must have been watching me in the toilets haha............putting images like that into a young girls head.....you'll make me blush... lol Quote Link to post
Guest manda Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 you can but dream HA HA lolwell im only 5ft so dont think he talking about my height might be your head lol Quote Link to post
Guest manda Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 so how old are you expert dog trainers eg. grit, jessy and deerman Quote Link to post
Guest manda Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 :11: can you tell im bored Miss T lol Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted March 4, 2009 Report Share Posted March 4, 2009 Ok......First things first.....Trigger that is an impressive bag and like i said in my last post on your last topic if it works or you then fair enough......Secondly....most people were not doubting what your dog was capable of as such they were just asking for proof...and today you did that.....what they were doubting and disagreeing with was the way your pups are brought on at such an early age.....at the end of the day wether your 8week old pup manages to overcome obstacles and everything else thrown in its way with out injury then thats fine, but at 8weeks old a puppy is not fully vaccinated to go outside so could catch any disease going.....dont get me wrong after my jrt's first jab she was going on short walks to get her used to the lead...noises...little things she may encounter but not 4hour walks where she could say get quite a bad cut from a loose bit of barbed wire fencing or similar which could transmitt god knows what into her system......that was the main arguement that people were presenting...... The one thing that does confuse me is running dogs doubled up on a rabbit....i know you've explained your reasons for this many times so im not asking for you to do it again but still it confuses me......on your last post someone put that 'experienced dog dont collide with one another but inexperienced ones do'..or something along those lines..i can't remember who wrote this but i have seen experienced dogs collide whilst running doubled up and the outcome wasnt pretty....no surely putting two dogs on one rabbit is not the point of the sport....gives the rabbit less then a 50/50 chance of getting away and on quarry as small as a rabbit does come with greater risks of injury to ones dog......... I dont really have alot else to say at then end of the day you have proved that Trigger does indeed do very well but it seems he would equally as well on his own yet appears you prefer to run him doubled up most of the time..... one last thing though Deerman why do you keep calling Mickyrichardson Bigman??? because thats what he likes to come across as behind his pc because in real life he cant Quote Link to post
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