christine88 1 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 aww how gorgeous, pure love and peace ahhhh lol i have a shepherd too Quote Link to post
Lola 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 got it sussed now Quote Link to post
Lola 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 aww how gorgeous, pure love and peace ahhhh lol i have a shepherd too very beautiful Quote Link to post
rob-s 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sounds about right, my youngest dog i have at the moment is the same age he is a labx, at least ur loony stages only last a couple of hours his is all day lol my lurcher and he are the best of friends and when he goes mad she just watches over him sitting by my side like a teachers pet lol my lurcher is 2 now and she is ALOT better behaved, maybe when he is having his loony sessions it might be another idea to try and focus his mind else where then, another idea for the biting would be spray training, i have used that with my shepherd it worked fantasticly with her but not my lurcher but it might work for you. I do try training to distract him but he goes right back into it. I actually think that he has gotten worse this last week since my sisters saluki x has been muzzled on the walks. She just won't have a run with it on but she has to wear it after catching something she shouldn't, wouldn't mind but it was a local country park. When she runs she takes Casper with her and I think he needs this. He will spend the full 2 hours playing and searching in the bushes but he needs the run too. Beautiful dogs btw Need to make sure he knows who.s boss, might sound wrong to you but a good crack and a No! might work wonders. basic lurcher or any dog training isnt rocket science, its a pack thing, sounds like you need to establish your place in the pack i.e alpha male/female. you can spoil a dog just like children a.t.b Quote Link to post
Lola 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 This is a cute one of him Quote Link to post
Lola 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sounds about right, my youngest dog i have at the moment is the same age he is a labx, at least ur loony stages only last a couple of hours his is all day lol my lurcher and he are the best of friends and when he goes mad she just watches over him sitting by my side like a teachers pet lol my lurcher is 2 now and she is ALOT better behaved, maybe when he is having his loony sessions it might be another idea to try and focus his mind else where then, another idea for the biting would be spray training, i have used that with my shepherd it worked fantasticly with her but not my lurcher but it might work for you. I do try training to distract him but he goes right back into it. I actually think that he has gotten worse this last week since my sisters saluki x has been muzzled on the walks. She just won't have a run with it on but she has to wear it after catching something she shouldn't, wouldn't mind but it was a local country park. When she runs she takes Casper with her and I think he needs this. He will spend the full 2 hours playing and searching in the bushes but he needs the run too. Beautiful dogs btw Need to make sure he knows who.s boss, might sound wrong to you but a good crack and a No! might work wonders. basic lurcher or any dog training isnt rocket science, its a pack thing, sounds like you need to establish your place in the pack i.e alpha male/female. you can spoil a dog just like children a.t.b You're absolutely right. My failing is that I'm not consistent enough. I am going to read cesars book so I have all the info and then start. My sister had a dog listener out once (jan fennels way) and their advice was to not walk them for weeks, don't agree with that although most of her way is spot on. Quote Link to post
christine88 1 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 awww his got beautiful colourings, i do agree establishing pack is crusial. u r boss run with it enjoy the power lmao ignore the eeyore slippers shhhh im stylish lol Quote Link to post
rob-s 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sounds about right, my youngest dog i have at the moment is the same age he is a labx, at least ur loony stages only last a couple of hours his is all day lol my lurcher and he are the best of friends and when he goes mad she just watches over him sitting by my side like a teachers pet lol my lurcher is 2 now and she is ALOT better behaved, maybe when he is having his loony sessions it might be another idea to try and focus his mind else where then, another idea for the biting would be spray training, i have used that with my shepherd it worked fantasticly with her but not my lurcher but it might work for you. I do try training to distract him but he goes right back into it. I actually think that he has gotten worse this last week since my sisters saluki x has been muzzled on the walks. She just won't have a run with it on but she has to wear it after catching something she shouldn't, wouldn't mind but it was a local country park. When she runs she takes Casper with her and I think he needs this. He will spend the full 2 hours playing and searching in the bushes but he needs the run too. Beautiful dogs btw Need to make sure he knows who.s boss, might sound wrong to you but a good crack and a No! might work wonders. basic lurcher or any dog training isnt rocket science, its a pack thing, sounds like you need to establish your place in the pack i.e alpha male/female. you can spoil a dog just like children a.t.b You're absolutely right. My failing is that I'm not consistent enough. I am going to read cesars book so I have all the info and then start. My sister had a dog listener out once (jan fennels way) and their advice was to not walk them for weeks, don't agree with that although most of her way is spot on. Your thinking too much! dog listener, books....decide what you want from your dog, watch and learn he,s character, you know your own!! and work it accordingly. its really not as hard as you make it sound Quote Link to post
Lola 0 Posted March 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 Sounds about right, my youngest dog i have at the moment is the same age he is a labx, at least ur loony stages only last a couple of hours his is all day lol my lurcher and he are the best of friends and when he goes mad she just watches over him sitting by my side like a teachers pet lol my lurcher is 2 now and she is ALOT better behaved, maybe when he is having his loony sessions it might be another idea to try and focus his mind else where then, another idea for the biting would be spray training, i have used that with my shepherd it worked fantasticly with her but not my lurcher but it might work for you. I do try training to distract him but he goes right back into it. I actually think that he has gotten worse this last week since my sisters saluki x has been muzzled on the walks. She just won't have a run with it on but she has to wear it after catching something she shouldn't, wouldn't mind but it was a local country park. When she runs she takes Casper with her and I think he needs this. He will spend the full 2 hours playing and searching in the bushes but he needs the run too. Beautiful dogs btw Need to make sure he knows who.s boss, might sound wrong to you but a good crack and a No! might work wonders. basic lurcher or any dog training isnt rocket science, its a pack thing, sounds like you need to establish your place in the pack i.e alpha male/female. you can spoil a dog just like children a.t.b You're absolutely right. My failing is that I'm not consistent enough. I am going to read cesars book so I have all the info and then start. My sister had a dog listener out once (jan fennels way) and their advice was to not walk them for weeks, don't agree with that although most of her way is spot on. Your thinking too much! dog listener, books....decide what you want from your dog, watch and learn he,s character, you know your own!! and work it accordingly. its really not as hard as you make it sound that's me...too much thinking not enough action. I'm going to have to change that because taking him back to the dogs home is out of the question, it would ruin him...and me. I had it too easy with my GSD, she was so easy but then I had her from 6 1/2 weeks. Quote Link to post
christine88 1 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 We got our gsd [bANNED TEXT] she was 7 months old with all kinds of issues!! she was diagnosed with hip dysplaysia a week after we got her (after being told she was healthy from a RESCUE CENTRE!!), she had been locked in a room with 3 other dogs fighting for food. She was bostrious and majorly untrained, shes a lot better now but it has taken years she is now nearly 5 and still disobidient lol Quote Link to post
stoaty1 35 Posted March 3, 2009 Report Share Posted March 3, 2009 (edited) Becoming the pack leader is what is needed as the dog will then respect you. However you dont just need strength to be the leader. While I agree if the dog knows what you want and is just disobeying you then a sharp correction may be in order. In this case though I dont think the dog has a clear idea of what is required. Its just getting overexcited. If you physically and mentally knacker the dog out then you have a calmer dog. Then we can work on respect. This dog is like a stroppy toddler it wants the attention and it wants it now. So far this has worked. We now need to reprogramme the dog and teach it that it gets the attention from doing what we want. If it goes and settles down then it gets a reward - attention or food. If it demands the attention then it gets ignored. This does not have to mean putting it in another room or outside. U just cut off all attention. People forget that as far as the dog is concerned you bollocking it is still attention and thereby the dog is rewarded. PS he looks great Edited March 3, 2009 by stoaty1 Quote Link to post
Lola 0 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Becoming the pack leader is what is needed as the dog will then respect you. However you dont just need strength to be the leader. While I agree if the dog knows what you want and is just disobeying you then a sharp correction may be in order. In this case though I dont think the dog has a clear idea of what is required. Its just getting overexcited. If you physically and mentally knacker the dog out then you have a calmer dog. Then we can work on respect. This dog is like a stroppy toddler it wants the attention and it wants it now. So far this has worked. We now need to reprogramme the dog and teach it that it gets the attention from doing what we want. If it goes and settles down then it gets a reward - attention or food. If it demands the attention then it gets ignored. This does not have to mean putting it in another room or outside. U just cut off all attention. People forget that as far as the dog is concerned you bollocking it is still attention and thereby the dog is rewarded. PS he looks great Thanks Your reply is spot on! I don't think he does know what is expected of him. The more I raise my voice or try to stop him the more determind he is to grab me. It becomes a battle of wills which he is winning right now! The only thing is I can't ignore him because he follows me everywhere biting me. It hurts. Maybe I should put his muzzle on but then he rams it into my legs trying to get it off. So do you think he would be better getting 2 walks or is 2 hours in the afternoon enough? Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) quote: only thing is I can't ignore him because he follows me everywhere biting me. It hurts unquote. Get an indooor cage or a kennel and run outside: the dog is clearly boss of you and your'e heading for a serious problem if you don't break the behaviour NOW! If the dog lives inside, which I assume it does, then the cage is somewhere you can put the dog when a) you want peace and quiet, if you can't control the dog mentally then at least once it is in the cage it cannot continue to follow you everywhere. Prepare for tantrums, but seriously I would get in touch with a good behaviourist who will train YOU how to manage the dog. I reccomend Jim Greenwood who is both a very good lurcherman and a behaviourist. I must admit I was cringing when I read how you describe the dog's behaviour: I repeat: this is a status/training problem and the dog obviously sees you as a play mate rather than the boss. In time, if you don't change things round soon the dog will start to try and be boss of you, if it isn't already, and you will have a real problem in getting it to do anything you tell it to. No dog should ever feel it can bite (even in play) its owner: its only a small step to using its teeth for real. Please get this sorted now! Edited March 5, 2009 by skycat Quote Link to post
Lola 0 Posted March 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 quote: only thing is I can't ignore him because he follows me everywhere biting me. It hurts unquote. Get an indooor cage or a kennel and run outside: the dog is clearly boss of you and your'e heading for a serious problem if you don't break the behaviour NOW! If the dog lives inside, which I assume it does, then the cage is somewhere you can put the dog when a) you want peace and quiet, if you can't control the dog mentally then at least once it is in the cage it cannot continue to follow you everywhere. Prepare for tantrums, but seriously I would get in touch with a good behaviourist who will train YOU how to manage the dog. I reccomend Jim Greenwood who is both a very good lurcherman and a behaviourist. I must admit I was cringing when I read how you describe the dog's behaviour: I repeat: this is a status/training problem and the dog obviously sees you as a play mate rather than the boss. In time, if you don't change things round soon the dog will start to try and be boss of you, if it isn't already, and you will have a real problem in getting it to do anything you tell it to. No dog should ever feel it can bite (even in play) its owner: its only a small step to using its teeth for real. Please get this sorted now! [/quot Thanks skycat - I will definitely give Jim Greenwood a call. Where in the country is he? I'm in midlands so not sure how it'll work. I'll ring and have a quick chat with him. I think I've been far too soft on him because he's a rescue and was a nervous wreck around people. Soon as he gets to know you he's different! He has come on leaps and bounds with his confidence so I need to start showing him who is boss. Never had problems with my shepherd - she knows who the boss is and doesn't push it.....way more biddable than Casper Quote Link to post
boo28 0 Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 thanks, does he like tennis balls, have u tried using one of those throwing things, it knackers my lurcher out after an hour. but alas one dogs joy is anothers bordem my lab doesnt like tennis balls lol typical so we use the bike, take him alongside the bike for like an hour and a half, by the time u get home he is exhausted, they r soo nice when they are ASLEEP lol we do this with the lurcher too, keeps her lovely and fit ahhh peace is that your lab Quote Link to post
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