Lamping Comp!!!

[tote 856]

if its in the first heat rounds then hopefully the place can be taken up by a runner in reserve if its in a second round match then i think that the person who dropped out should be replaced with the runner that the had beat in the first round.

 

if you have 2 people drop out resulting in a match from 2 others that would of had a by you will end up with odd numbers.

 

W.h

 

I agree and disagree with you WH, if a runner drops out in the first round I agree a reserve could be brought in.

 

I don't agree that someone who has already been beat gets back in if the person who beat them can't run, if you are beat then you're out end of.

 

As for the last point, you've lost me completly, If it's run down the card it won't make any difference who drops out or how many, it'll just mean more byes. Far better to try and keep it simple then everyone will know where they stand.

[doris 6]

Think a 'By' should be a 'By' its the luck the draw if the person your running cant make it, should keep things nice and simple too.

I concur. a bye is a bye and always will be. the draw cannot change because of it.

 

If in doubt run a poll with the options . . . . . . . . . . a democratic society rules!

[Guest world.hunters]

runner 1 vs runner 2

 

runner 3 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

say if 1 and 3 dropped it would result in

 

runner 2 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

this would result in 3 people in the next heat

 

hope this helps.

 

 

W.h

 

 

editied to say that this was just explaining to tote what i ment on my first post about not being able to have 2 people drop out resulting in a match from 2 others that would of had a by you will end up with odd numbers.

Edited February 25, 2009 by world.hunters

[chartpolski 24,191]

runner 1 vs runner 2

 

runner 3 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

say if 1 and 3 dropped it would result in

 

runner 2 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

this would result in 3 people in the next heat

 

hope this helps.

 

 

W.h

 

 

Except you can't have THREE people , (or dogs), in the next heat !! On a straight, ladder system knockout, IE 32, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1; ypu cannot have people, (or dogs), taking the place of non-runners, apart from the 1st round, and then only if it is written in the rules !! If my 1st round is against a certain dog, then it pulls out , and a different dog is put up to race me, and if it is not written in the rules, why the hell should I race it ??? Once the draw has been done, that should be it !! I know LDR will discuss all rules well before the next comp, and it will be run fair and square, just like this one; but there will still be aresholes moaning !!

Cheers.

[Leeview 791]

runner 1 vs runner 2

 

runner 3 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

say if 1 and 3 dropped it would result in

 

runner 2 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

this would result in 3 people in the next heat

 

hope this helps.

 

 

W.h

2V4 would run a double BYE to the next round

that way 2+4 and winner of 5+6 and winner of 7+8=4 dogs that have all run once making it all equal surely?

[chartpolski 24,191]

runner 1 vs runner 2

 

runner 3 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

say if 1 and 3 dropped it would result in

 

runner 2 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

this would result in 3 people in the next heat

 

hope this helps.

 

 

W.h

2V4 would run a double BYE to the next round

that way 2+4 and winner of 5+6 and winner of 7+8=4 dogs that have all run once making it all equal surely?

 

Lee, you still aren't getting it !! Equal runs mean a lot in Coursing, but mean NOTHING in Lamping Competitions !! Me(and LDR), run our dogs on a regular basis over the season, I ran my dog 2 days before my 1st and 2nd heat, as did LDR Do you realy think any of us only run our dogs in the heats of this comp ?? I was out twice last week lamping with LDR, do you think Paul, (Lamp+Battery) is only keeping his bitch back for his semi final against LDR ?? The way you come over, the dogs in the comp would only run once a month !!

 

Cheers.

Edited February 25, 2009 by chartpolski

[tote 856]

runner 1 vs runner 2

 

runner 3 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

say if 1 and 3 dropped it would result in

 

runner 2 vs runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6

 

runner 7 vs runner 8

 

this would result in 3 people in the next heat

 

hope this helps.

 

 

W.h

 

Surley this is how it would work if runners 1 and 3 dropped out,-runners 2 and 4 would get a bye leaving 4 dogs in the next round. I don't see why runners 2 and 4 would run each other in the first round when they're not scheduled to meet untill round 2.

 

 

....ROUND 1..................................ROUND 2

Bye vs runner 2..................runner 2

..................................................V

Bye vs runner 4...................runner 4

 

runner 5 vs runner 6..............5 or 6

....................................................V

 

runner 7 vs runner 8...............7 OR 8

 

 

Can it be any easier?

 

 

 

[Leeview 791]

Right then as you will know there was a few problems with the 'BY' thing this year, we've got a few ideas of how to get round this, but what are peoples thoughts on solutions for it???

 

Lets try and keep it constructive too guys............

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chartpolski this is the start of the topic asking for "peoples thoughts on solutions for it" so I feel justified in replying if thats ok with you? Where do I mention not running dogs in between rounds? In coursing reserve dogs are listed for the stake(s) a reserve dog takes its place in the stake if a dog pulls out between draw and start of the stake, once a stake has started no other reserve is called in, others have said a bye is a bye, fair enough but what would happen then if a bye gets a bye next round? the dog is through to the semi's without catching a rabbit OH and what a thought unlikely as it may seem but if it got another bye it would be in the final without catching a rabbit could nt it? The solution under coursing rules no dog is allowed successive bye's to proceed, the dog directly below it on the card is promoted up leaving a bye below

2 2

bye 6

 

 

6 bye

8 8

 

Y.I.S Leeview

Edited February 25, 2009 by Leeview

[chartpolski 24,191]

Leeview; just two questions;

 

1; Why did you not enter this seasons competition ?

 

2; Are you entering next seasons competition ?

 

Cheers.

[nighteyes 275]

i think smoggle will be in it next year defending his title

[Leeview 791]

Leeview; just two questions;

 

1; Why did you not enter this seasons competition ?

 

2; Are you entering next seasons competition ?

 

Cheers.

1; Collapsed at work last April and have been on sick since with a dodgy heart beat

 

2:highly unlikely but who knows.

 

 

which relevant piece did I miss where it said only have an opinion if your in the comp?

Y.I.S Leeview

[chartpolski 24,191]

Leeview; just two questions;

 

1; Why did you not enter this seasons competition ?

 

2; Are you entering next seasons competition ?

 

Cheers.

1; Collapsed at work last April and have been on sick since with a dodgy heart beat

 

2:highly unlikely but who knows.

 

 

which relevant piece did I miss where it said only have an opinion if your in the comp?

Y.I.S Leeview

 

You can have as much opinion as you want.......... but if you're NOT in the competition, I doubt it will carry much wheight.

Cheers.

[Leeview 791]

Leeview; just two questions;

 

1; Why did you not enter this seasons competition ?

 

2; Are you entering next seasons competition ?

 

Cheers.

1; Collapsed at work last April and have been on sick since with a dodgy heart beat

 

2:highly unlikely but who knows.

 

 

which relevant piece did I miss where it said only have an opinion if your in the comp?

Y.I.S Leeview

 

 

You can have as much opinion as you want.......... but if you're NOT in the competition, I doubt it will carry much wheight.

Cheers.

So why did nt ldr ask L+B and mb for their opinion they're the only ones left in?

Y.I.S Leeview

[chartpolski 24,191]

mb isnt allowed an oppinion

 

Yes you are........

[Alaunt 4]

Right then as you will know there was a few problems with the 'BY' thing this year, we've got a few ideas of how to get round this, but what are peoples thoughts on solutions for it???

 

Lets try and keep it constructive too guys............

we have a lamping comp within the local lurcher club that i'm a member of

and when it comes to somebody pulling out the other person gets the by

BUT the person going through still has to go out and run at least 5 rabbits

with somebody to witness it,

the reason behind this is that the person going through

has'nt gone through without running because if he had'nt of ran

he would'nt of taken the chance of his dog getting injured,

so he would'nt have been able to run in the next round anyway

i hope this makes sence

atb tony

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