border man 2 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 hey all was flicking through a couple my books some advocate rabbiting and bushing to bring on a young dog some say never. whats the general concensus Quote Link to post
Guest rexdigger Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 imo keep the terriers away from rabbits if you can because i know of a few people who have had some deep digs to a dog and bunny and its not good getting down to an eaten rabbit and a fat dog thats stuck it will only cause problems my terrier at the minute doesnt do too bad if theres a rabbit there she just whines and comes away anything else there and shes in Quote Link to post
YOKEL 2,297 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 i hav'nt owned terriers for around 10yrs now, but when i did, the young un's were taken out as regular as possible and allowed to bush and ratch about for anything, they would also be taken on digs and tethered within earshot at an early age. i think all work is good for a young terrier and helps bring them on and once they learn there real trade they can differentiate between the two, but every cripple has his way of walking & this is J.M.O. others may differ... Yokel Quote Link to post
Guest rexdigger Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 i hav'nt owned terriers for around 10yrs now, but when i did, the young un's were taken out as regular as possible and allowed to bush and ratch about for anything, they would also be taken on digs and tethered within earshot at an early age. i think all work is good for a young terrier and helps bring them on and once they learn there real trade they can differentiate between the two, but every cripple has his way of walking & this is J.M.O. others may differ...Yokel just a question regarding this you say a dog can differentiate between the two lets just say you go to a fox earth and theres no foxes at home but a rabbit how does the dog know not to get the rabbit because theres no fox to ground for him to persue? Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 mine hunt both and wont bother with a rabbit hole depends how much you work them and how smart your dog is Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I used my oldest terrier for bushing as a youngster and it has caused a few problems. She's just as likely to go to ground for a rabbit as charlie. I dont suppose its much of a prob if you do both and dont mind the occasional dig to a bunny, but to be honest none of my other terriers are used for rabbits because of this. Quote Link to post
Guest rexdigger Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I used my oldest terrier for bushing as a youngster and it has caused a few problems. She's just as likely to go to ground for a rabbit as charlie. I dont suppose its much of a prob if you do both and dont mind the occasional dig to a bunny, but to be honest none of my other terriers are used for rabbits because of this. Quote Link to post
YOKEL 2,297 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 i hav'nt owned terriers for around 10yrs now, but when i did, the young un's were taken out as regular as possible and allowed to bush and ratch about for anything, they would also be taken on digs and tethered within earshot at an early age. i think all work is good for a young terrier and helps bring them on and once they learn there real trade they can differentiate between the two, but every cripple has his way of walking & this is J.M.O. others may differ...Yokel just a question regarding this you say a dog can differentiate between the two lets just say you go to a fox earth and theres no foxes at home but a rabbit how does the dog know not to get the rabbit because theres no fox to ground for him to persue? i can honestly say i never had to dig to a rabbit, had a few bolt out of pipes, and the odd one out of an earth. one shoot i used to do had a big long bank full of holes. some rabbity, some earths,some abit of both, just used to collar a dog up and run it off the slip, they'd stick there head in & sniff, if a fox was at home they'd enter and find, if not, move on to the next one. like i said in my previous post, every cripple has his way of walking, just cause i had no problems does'nt mean it is THE way of doing things, just worked for me and the dog's i have owned in the past. A.T.B... Yokel Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 ya well i guess that the difference my dogs come out of the holes Quote Link to post
dogs-n-natives 1,182 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I learnt young(the hard way) and now keep my earthdogs for digging well away from rabbits.... they do go ratting though, and this has never caused any problems. I take the young terriers out to watch at digs, ratting and exercise away from bunnies. When the young terrier is starting on its first digs i will always have an experienced marking terrier show that it holds fox 100%, to avoid early mistakes. After a couple of seasons you will be able to trust in the terriers judgement. If you worked the terrier on rabbit aswell, then a good mark would always have you guessing... Quote Link to post
fireman 11,038 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 i can honestly say i never had to dig to a rabbit, had a few bolt out of pipes, and the odd one out of an earth. one shoot i used to do had a big long bank full of holes. some rabbity, some earths,some abit of both, just used to collar a dog up and run it off the slip, they'd stick there head in & sniff, if a fox was at home they'd enter and find, if not, move on to the next one. like i said in my previous post, every cripple has his way of walking, just cause i had no problems does'nt mean it is THE way of doing things, just worked for me and the dog's i have owned in the past. A.T.B... Yokel Same here,i've never had any problems.I have never let my terriers enter a rabbit burry but they do mark them,if a charlie is at home then straight in,if not they mark it or move on.Works for me and my dogs but not for everyone i guess. Quote Link to post
fox buster 118 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 Just my opinion but a good digging dog shouldnt go to rabbits.No fun in digging 10ft and find your dog sat there on a bunny KEEP THEM OFF THE RABBITS Quote Link to post
chrissy32 13 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 a rabbit will all ways look better in a pie and not in a stop end keep your dogs away from the little fcukers Quote Link to post
aaron01 739 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 for me a digging fox dog should never see a rabbit al it should see are foxes so the dog knows whats expected of it Quote Link to post
allgame 0 Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 check out my post on the running dog section i have pics on how i like to den there im not sure about the other terriers but mine which were the long legged parson and the bow legged type were encouraged on rabbits asmuch as possible and i can assure you nethier "jack" with both fighting the fox every step of the way coming out every 20 minutes or so to make sure im still around then back in and iv never had ethier dug to were they havnt had a mouth full of fox or cat in there mouth they also bark there heads off every time there not fighting, iv also never had to dig down on a rabbit they will go down a rabbit hole check it out and 30 seconds latter come back out and go off hunting agian, a couple months ago my parson type climbed up a hollow tree and killed a fox inside it it took it over an hour, its always amazed me how all your terriers seem to be breed for there toughness and never once have i heard it mention on this english forum of breeding for things like a good nose or brains which is the priority for most of the aussie breed terriers, the fact that the majority of terriers on these forums have no real socalation with other dogs while hunting and that few are stock proff is appaling, tough and dumb seems to be the way you like them, there killers not hunters theres a difference Quote Link to post
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