AzMaN 0 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) Right before I start this topic, I am in no way involved with said procedings i'm talking about other than being told it, and I have advised him to dispose of said firearm asap (he wasnt sure if it was, but i asssume its activated). Anyways, if said person was cleaning out his grandads loft (whos say 90 ish) and came accross a section 1 firearm possibly a .22 by they way he described the domed headed rounds that were with it. Obviously being stored in the loft, he dosnt have a FAC, well i wouldnt have thought so. If said firearm was given to someone with an FAC in the correct caliber (not me I dont have one before i get replys sujesting so) is this legal? or dose it have to be disposed of by the police? I just think it would be better to be given to somone who will make use of it rather than be choped up never to see the light of day again. Edited February 19, 2009 by AzMaN Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 In that situation you apply to the police for a temporary permit for the rifle, this allows you to dispose of it to an RFD or FAC holder. You will need to get this permit before giving the firearm to the FAC holder, otherwise they cannot acquire it - the 'selling' party has to complete the FAC, and part of that is Authority To possess - without the permit, there is none. Quote Link to post
perthshire keeper 1,239 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 if you take it to RFD he will sort it out best not mention names thou. i got a old side by side of a farmer he has had it for years with no cert and gave it to me, i just took it to my loacal rfd and got it put back on ticket Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 By the sound of this the "owner" does not hold the gun legally. That being the case giving it to someone who has a spare slot for the item will not turn it into a legally held firearm! Put simply, find your local FEO and talk to him...strange as it may seem this sort of thing does happen and if handled correctly there is every chance this may become legal. Lots of things happened in the past, lots of people have "relics/heirlooms/war trophies/etc" and the police understand and can sometimes help! Be careful anyway, at the moment it seems someone may be sitting on a 5 year jail term! Quote Link to post
AzMaN 0 Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) if he applys for a temporary permit surely they will ask questions, and possibly get his grandad into trouble? there again if he hands it in he could be in just as much trouble. Edited February 19, 2009 by AzMaN Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted February 19, 2009 Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 I suspect thousands of historic firearms have been crushed by handing in under amnesty arrangements. Can anyone quote from the rulebook? Can a RFD "recycle" it into a legitimate gun, or deactivate it? Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted February 20, 2009 Report Share Posted February 20, 2009 Most has been covered above, you need a temporary certificate so that the gun can be held legally until it is disposed of. This can be in the form of it being taken to an RFD, An FAC holder with the appropriate slot, or applying for an FAC yourself for the rifle, providing you can prove good reason. Now this is a very tricky circumstance in that the rifle is now sitting insecure, unlicensed and with possibly live ammunition. A few questions need to be answered first. 1) How long has the Grandfather lived at the address? If the gun appears to be before his time at the address, then he is not the one in trouble anyway. It will be the previous owner whoever that may be. 2) Does your friend intend to keep the rifle himself or get rid? Fidgety, an RFD does not have the power to put unlicensed guns back into circulation, when he informs the local Dept that he now has the gun, they will want to know where it comes from as it wont show up on their systems. Don't forget that if the gun does not want to be kept under any circumstance, it can be handed in at any Police station regardless of whether there is an amnesty in place at the time, but be aware, from personal experience with a friend under these circumstances, TELEPHONE THE STATION BEFORE YOU WALK IN WITH THE GUN! SS Quote Link to post
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