jigsaw 11,899 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Is it hereditary or not.I visited a farmer today after I heard he had a Kelpie of 9 months old.Its a very fine long legged dog.The poor bugger is booked in for an operation on the eye.Its to be taken out as hes suffering from the above.The eye specialist told him the dog is very likely to get it in the other eye also seeing as he got it so young,if this happens then the dog will have to be PTS.Does anyone know if this is hereditary?I have found a link to a very small no.of people that actually work kelpies here in Ireland I hope the dog pulls through as the owner is a real decent sort.I never met him before today and my dinner was on offer and the comforts of his home and he asked if I'd be so kind as to get a few deer culled as they were as ''BLOODY NUISANCE'',his words not mine.Anyway a few pics of the poor mutt.Rather disturbing if your easily upset. The chap hasnt spared any expense on getting the dog seen to.He went to his local vet who referred him to an eye specialist who refered him to the surgeon that will remove the eye. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 And before you say anything,I told him he needs to clean the shit from his kennel,but he said hes tearing busy with sheep lambing at the moment.He started doing it today as I was leaving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trader 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 And before you say anything,I told him he needs to clean the shit from his kennel,but he said hes tearing busy with sheep lambing at the moment.He started doing it today as I was leaving. f king disgrace that kennel dont matter how busy he is Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 yeah i think so too,now any input on glaucoma? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chook Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yes it can be hereditary, if hes thinking of breeding from it tell him get it neutered, so it can never be breed from, with the looks of that dogs eye its a good job hes got it booked as its the worset ive seen, May i ask why he will put the dog to sleep - if the other eye gets glaucoma, dogs do verry well being blind, i have a 10 year old bitch thats been blind since she was 4, she had one of her eyes removed when she was 2, and lost the sight in the other by the time she was 4, she can do everything the other dogs can, would he not pass it on to a pet home, where it could live out outs days at 9 months old its still a young dog and has a full life ahead of it. anyway theres lots of info on this site, its mostly americans, but its worth having a look. http://www.blinddogs.com/articles/glaucoma.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dawn B 212 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yes its hereditary in dogs, my JRT had it, had one eye removed, went blind in the other eventually, lived till 15 and a half, never bothered her at all once the affected eye was removed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dogman89 0 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yes it can be hereditary, if hes thinking of breeding from it tell him get it neutered, so it can never be breed from,with the looks of that dogs eye its a good job hes got it booked as its the worset ive seen, May i ask why he will put the dog to sleep - if the other eye gets glaucoma, dogs do verry well being blind, i have a 10 year old bitch thats been blind since she was 4, she had one of her eyes removed when she was 2, and lost the sight in the other by the time she was 4, she can do everything the other dogs can, would he not pass it on to a pet home, where it could live out outs days at 9 months old its still a young dog and has a full life ahead of it. anyway theres lots of info on this site, its mostly americans, but its worth having a look. http://www.blinddogs.com/articles/glaucoma.htm fair play to you for giving the dog a chance, but, if i had a dog go blind i wouldnt need to think twice about getting it put to sleep, im sure you realise how hard blind people have it and im sure dog shave it even harder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chook Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Yes it can be hereditary, if hes thinking of breeding from it tell him get it neutered, so it can never be breed from,with the looks of that dogs eye its a good job hes got it booked as its the worset ive seen, May i ask why he will put the dog to sleep - if the other eye gets glaucoma, dogs do verry well being blind, i have a 10 year old bitch thats been blind since she was 4, she had one of her eyes removed when she was 2, and lost the sight in the other by the time she was 4, she can do everything the other dogs can, would he not pass it on to a pet home, where it could live out outs days at 9 months old its still a young dog and has a full life ahead of it. anyway theres lots of info on this site, its mostly americans, but its worth having a look. http://www.blinddogs.com/articles/glaucoma.htm fair play to you for giving the dog a chance, but, if i had a dog go blind i wouldnt need to think twice about getting it put to sleep, im sure you realise how hard blind people have it and im sure dog shave it even harder See thats a mith - if you met my dog and didnt know she was blind, you would be shocked, they cope perfictly well, you cant go off how people cope when they loose there sight, dogs are totaly different - there not people, 90% of the time, when people are told there dogs going blind, its them who do the suffering, they worry - the dog dosen't, actualy most dogs dont care, its the owners that cause the problems, they worry, so the dog starts to think theres something wrong, and starts off with behavoural problems, then they put that down to the dog being blind, yes there are a different set of rules when you own a blind dog, they need some slight re- training, but that shouldnt stop anyone, my girl go's off lead like any other dog, she knows when theres a bed free, she knows when theres something in her way and will avoid it, and she knows how to live. my girl last year - she had climed on top of the 48" crate, as i'd moved the bedding up there to clean up. ( it is the same dog, just she gets clipped out every few months) off lead over the fields Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winter hare 2 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 it wouldnt hert to clean the pen out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted February 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Thank you for the input guys and gals,I should have emphasised that this dog was bought as a ''WORKING'' sheep gerding dog.The farmer lives in the middle of nothing.The nearest shop is 2 miles away so having the dog as a pet is not an option.Even with his eye as it is the dog travels in the back of the tractor and goes up that mountain in my pictures and drives the sheep down to holding pens.It has to work as this farmer is a no nonsense kind of man.I only wish he takes on board how important it is to clean the ffffuckin kennel on a regular basis as I mentioned to him .Theres no excuse for that ammount of shit to be left lying around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
the_stig 6,614 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 i`ve had a 2 n half year russell bitch pts this week that had chronic kcs (keratoconjunctivitis sicca) i`d tried every thing the vet threw at me to give the bitch a chance she`d seen hr first fox in november and looked to be a promising dog its never nice to lose a dog she`d become miserable and fed up - not suitable to breed from .watching her bump into things and stumble her way around and the prospect of blindness looming at a young age .. the best option for me was to put an end to the suffering .. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chook Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Didnt mean him keep it as a pet, as i know most farmers wont keep animals that are useless to them, they dont over hear, but he could pass him on to be re-homed as a pet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neal 1,873 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 I think I must be the one suffering from Glaucoma: I couldn't work out why everybody was slating the condition of the run. I had to look three times before I realised it WASN'T footprints in the sand. D'oh! Does anybody know if the disease can be caused by environment as oppossed to being just hereditary as all the research I've done points to it only being the latter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack pyke 4 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 are you sure the dog hasant got shit in its eye f*****g discrace that kenell run should be ashamed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,899 Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 if you read my statements above,i agree.the pen should not have been left like that but he did start to clean it as i was leaving,theres no excuse for not giving it a brush every day.i cant really go barnstorming in and tell him hes a disgrace and to clean up regularly.i did mention it to him to keep the dog in a cleaner enviornment after the operation.well i will be back during the next week and hopefully he'll have the place sorted but i reckon it'll be only a matter of time before the shit piles up again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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