Guest Catcher Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) Hi i would like your opinion about lamping without the use of a slip lead.When I started running lurchers IT was all day work.About 1993 anyway My first dog had to learn by instinged as it was me the dog and some tips i got off older people.I had read a few books every one had there own way.I got a few tips that would work of one but not the other.In the end After about ten mnth i relised you can read all the book,s that have ever been wrote. )But you can only train the dog the correctly whey when you begin to know it,s temproment.I could go into all this but any good lurcherman will know what i,am talking about.Gave her first run on rabbits just over ten mnth up in bigger got two rappid back live to hand as she had only been trained on dummys Got her first hare sixteen mnth.Put her on the lamp about two and a half(nightmare)this dog was used to working up her own quarry with her nose.It took me about three mnth to catch her frist hare on the lamp.After another two mnth i took her of the slip lead and made her heal till she was told to fetch.If she moved without being told the lamp would be turned off and she would be called in At fist she would brake away and run across one of the other lads path.Then i would get a power.But in the end the dog came good.I have now trained three dogs to work off the lead lamping P.S The reason i did this i hated haveing to slip the dog at every fence then put her back on. Edited February 16, 2009 by Catcher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scoop and digger 1 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hi i would like your opinion about lamping without the use of a slip lead.When I started running lurchers IT was all day work.About 1993 anyway My first dog had to learn by instinged as it was me the dog and some tips i got off older people.I had read a few books every one had there own way.I got a few tips that would work of one but not the other.In the end After about ten mnth i relised you can read all the book,s that have ever been wrote. )But you can only train the dog the correctly whey when you begin to know it,s temproment.I could go into all this but any good lurcherman will know what i,am talking about.Gave her first run on rabbits just over ten mnth up in bigger got two rappid back live to hand as she had only been trained on dummys Got her first hare sixteen mnth.Put her on the lamp about two and a half(nightmare)this dog was used to working up her own quarry with her nose.It took me about three mnth to catch her frist hare on the lamp.After another two mnth i took her of the slip lead and made her heal till she was told to fetch.If she moved without being told the lamp would be turned off and she would be called in At fist she would brake away and run across one of the other lads path.Then i would get a power.But in the end the dog came good.I have now trained three dogs to work off the lead lamping P.S The reason i did this i hated haveing to slip the dog at every fence then put her back on. hats off too u catcher a think it takes a patient man too own and work a lutcher with a slip lead so u must hav the patince ov a saint too train it too heal everything in the dog must hav been telling it too give chase or too wonder off and just hunt up quarry its self with the dog being used too day work fair play too you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reload Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Working free of the slip is the only way, and is how a lurcher should work IMO There are times when i have to use a slip to prevent any accidents though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippeter69 88 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Using a slip just saves time training the dog to walk to heel off the slip at night but if i was patient enough then i would probably have a go at it, but i do not mind the slip lead at all, and will probably use a slip lead at night all of my lamping time but ferreting the dog is always off the slip. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hollie 21 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 My dad was telling me the other day about how he never had a lead for his Lurcher, he trained him to work on voice commands and how one day when i was about 3 we were out on a bike ride with dog beside us when a hare sprung across the road but the dog never took off because he wasn't told he 'could', i would love to get my dog to that standard to you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thehunter09 1 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 nothing wronge with no slip mate.the problem is no one can be botherd to train there dogs to these standedany more well done mate Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anythingoes 28 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Hi i would like your opinion about lamping without the use of a slip lead.When I started running lurchers IT was all day work.About 1993 anyway My first dog had to learn by instinged as it was me the dog and some tips i got off older people.I had read a few books every one had there own way.I got a few tips that would work of one but not the other.In the end After about ten mnth i relised you can read all the book,s that have ever been wrote. )But you can only train the dog the correctly whey when you begin to know it,s temproment.I could go into all this but any good lurcherman will know what i,am talking about.Gave her first run on rabbits just over ten mnth up in bigger got two rappid back live to hand as she had only been trained on dummys Got her first hare sixteen mnth.Put her on the lamp about two and a half(nightmare)this dog was used to working up her own quarry with her nose.It took me about three mnth to catch her frist hare on the lamp.After another two mnth i took her of the slip lead and made her heal till she was told to fetch.If she moved without being told the lamp would be turned off and she would be called in At fist she would brake away and run across one of the other lads path.Then i would get a power.But in the end the dog came good.I have now trained three dogs to work off the lead lamping P.S The reason i did this i hated haveing to slip the dog at every fence then put her back on. HATS OFF TO YOU THERE MATE IT WAS A JOY TO WATCH !! IT WONT BE LONG TILL I BE DOING THE SAME !!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whippeter69 88 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Dont you think that more people trying to train their dog to lamp with no slip will result in more running dogs being sold on by owners who have no patients. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Mass_G3nocide Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 My pup will sit and stay with a click of my finger and also all of my other commands are hand signal's.What she will be like with game i don't know.Cant wait to find out though i reckon she will just f**k off and chase anything in sight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reload Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 A 'true' lurcher to me should be well trained to be a truely handy dog. Put the work in and you will be repaid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thehunter09 1 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dont you think that more people trying to train their dog to lamp with no slip will result in more running dogs being sold on by owners who have no patients.if these pepole get rid of there dogs because they run out of patients.then my be they should not try trainin a dog at all Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,613 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 all my dogs do it, as reload says its the way a good dog should be worked. i even have my older bitch off slip when the young ones working, and will stay at heel till comanded Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brummy 9 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I don't see what difference it makes........... I've been fortunate to lamp with some excellent dogmen and all of them use a slip. If you come to a gate/fence take it off and the dog waits on the other side then put the slip back on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tote 856 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I don't see what difference it makes........... I've been fortunate to lamp with some excellent dogmen and all of them use a slip. If you come to a gate/fence take it off and the dog waits on the other side then put the slip back on. Don't see why a dog has to be off the slip for it to jump a fence or gate, why can't it jump when it's still on the slip. Must say it's a lot easier if a dog is working without a slip. I find it fairly easy to train them to do that when they're working solo, not so easy when they're out working with another dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mickyrichardson Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 all my dogs do it, as reload says its the way a good dog should be worked. i even have my older bitch off slip when the young ones working, and will stay at heel till comanded thats some going tomo mate i can have my dog off when he is the only dog running but not when other dogs are there, has your older bitch done it all the time or is it something that has come with age? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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