Border Terrier Bought off K94V

[mushroom 12,878]

def they need to be recognized as xs when they're sold if not then breeder is as showman said a pup peddlar who dosen't give a f+#k

[lilvixen 26]

Good luck with the pups, hope you have fun with them.. I guess if they've been sold as just Border-type (or Border-cross), with a price tag to match, fair-do's... But if you've bought these pups as genuine bonafide pedigree Borders, you have been led a merry dance... Even more so if you've paid the going rate and been given papers for them. I hope it's the former...

 

ATB Lilvixen

[The Breeder 156]

Fordi - Firstly, the issues that you have got with Showman have got nothing to do with me or anybody else.

But, I think your missing the point - if K94V has sold you those 2 pups in the pics and sold them as Border Terriers, then he has misled you. Because in my opinion Border Terriers breed true to type i.e if you ask for a pint of lager in your local and get a pint of cider - you wouldn't be happy. I believe that the black pup has got Patt in him somewhere. I have never in all of my experience (38 years) seen a black Border Terrier with papers.

Its all well and good if your happy with the dog, but if you've paid good money for them and they were sold to you as Border Terriers - then you have been seriously misled. And if I was K94V then I would have told you that they were crosses and I would have sold them accordingly i.e price.

I sincerely hope that the pups work well for you and they go on to become good bushing dogs.

[Dawn B 212]

Who gives a sh!t?

 

If the pups do as he asks of them when they're old enough I doubt the owners will care much, I know I wouldn't. How do we know that the pups aren't throw backs anyway? I remember a lad on here putting pics up of pups that were out of top notch blacks, yet one of them come out white with black markings.

"Blacks" are very different, their history is peppered with crossbreeds, Borders are not and you dont get solid coloured ones, sorry. The problem with it is, the buyer has been conned into parting with his money for something that isnt what its supposed to be, whether the breeder knows this or not I dont know, but what Id stake my life on is that the pups are crossbreeds and to sell them as pedigrees is wrong and dishonest. Doesnt matter what the dogs are for, how about a bit of decency in this world?

[daleboy2009 0]

Fordi - Firstly, the issues that you have got with Showman have got nothing to do with me or anybody else.

But, I think your missing the point - if K94V has sold you those 2 pups in the pics and sold them as Border Terriers, then he has misled you. Because in my opinion Border Terriers breed true to type i.e if you ask for a pint of lager in your local and get a pint of cider - you wouldn't be happy. I believe that the black pup has got Patt in him somewhere. I have never in all of my experience (38 years) seen a black Border Terrier with papers.

Its all well and good if your happy with the dog, but if you've paid good money for them and they were sold to you as Border Terriers - then you have been seriously misled. And if I was K94V then I would have told you that they were crosses and I would have sold them accordingly i.e price.

I sincerely hope that the pups work well for you and they go on to become good bushing dogs.

hello mate i am the one with the two pups not fordi and i have no prob with showman

i would love him to ask me out for the day to show me how his dogs work as he is not to far from me or even yourself i would love it if your not far the pups are great and its what i make them

Edited February 17, 2009 by daleboy2009

[samba 534]

surley if they were borders the buyers would have there papers?

and the black/tan one as white patch on chest which in my years with dogs

results in russell blood

so show us your papers and lets end this now

[mick 7]

Both of my Borders have white on there chests

My mates 3 have white on there chests

Was at a show last year and there was a Border nearly

all black with just a little bit of tan on its legs

Rottys are black and tan but ive seen pure black

with no tan on them

One of me other mates has a pure black english bull

Black is a dominant colour cant see why you couldnt throw a pure black

Border every now and again

Lets face it they wouldnt get sold by the show people cause

there not surposed to be that colour and they wouldnt want people knowing

they were putting that colour out

Mick..

[Dawn B 212]

Both of my Borders have white on there chests

My mates 3 have white on there chests

Was at a show last year and there was a Border nearly

all black with just a little bit of tan on its legs

Rottys are black and tan but ive seen pure black

with no tan on them

One of me other mates has a pure black english bull

Black is a dominant colour cant see why you couldnt throw a pure black

Border every now and again

Lets face it they wouldnt get sold by the show people cause

there not surposed to be that colour and they wouldnt want people knowing

they were putting that colour out

Mick..

No Mick, you cannot get a solid coloured Border, its not genetically possible. White on the chest has always been acceptable, mine all have it.

[samba 534]

Both of my Borders have white on there chests

My mates 3 have white on there chests

Was at a show last year and there was a Border nearly

all black with just a little bit of tan on its legs

Rottys are black and tan but ive seen pure black

with no tan on them

One of me other mates has a pure black english bull

Black is a dominant colour cant see why you couldnt throw a pure black

Border every now and again

Lets face it they wouldnt get sold by the show people cause

there not surposed to be that colour and they wouldnt want people knowing

they were putting that colour out

Mick..

No Mick, you cannot get a solid coloured Border, its not genetically possible. White on the chest has always been acceptable, mine all have it.

fare enough not a terrier man so wasnt sure but they look more crossed then pures jmoi

look more border/lakie type

but we live/learn everyday so could be wrong if so ill put my hands up

[Guest SJM]

Dawn is right, many borders will have either a dot or a star of white on their chests, but you dont get jet black borders it just doesnt happen.

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I wonder IF K94V will tell us if there cross bred or not?

[mick 7]

Not to clever with genetics

But they bread a red and tan Rotty

I dont serpose they thought that was possible either

Ryan..

[Dawn B 212]

Not to clever with genetics

But they bread a red and tan Rotty

I dont serpose they thought that was possible either

Ryan..

Yes Ryan that IS possible genetically, as is the long haired Rottweiler, the long coat gene cioming from its Bernese Mountain dog ancestors.

 

A Red Rottweiler is not considered by the standard because of a genetic problem that inhibits the black base coat color

[breffni 3]

no hard feelings mate but you should of done more research into the breed before you bought your pups,personaly i wouldnt dream of bringing my wife\girlfriend to pick a pup if there not into working them.... it must have been a spur of the moment thing just like we all had at some stage ,dogs or whatever else! i hope they do the job that you want them for!!!!!!!!!!

[daleboy2009 0]

no hard feelings mate but you should of done more research into the breed before you bought your pups,personaly i wouldnt dream of bringing my wife\girlfriend to pick a pup if there not into working them.... it must have been a spur of the moment thing just like we all had at some stage ,dogs or whatever else! i hope they do the job that you want them for!!!!!!!!!!

errrrrr who said i wasnt into working them,im darrens wife and i love working the dogs and doing the air rifle bit,darren didnt just spring them on me !!!!!! i knew we were getting them they didnt jump out of a cardboard box with bows tied round their necks