Guest miller1989 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 In the for sale section there is constantly dogs being sold on and on an on! Most of them seem to bull x aged between 11mnths- 21 mnths why??? Im a bull x owner only of a racey type 1/4 bull great dog all round! Ive got my own answer to this....would like to hear what you lot think first thanks! And tell me if im wrong! Quote Link to post
SMOGGY 34 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I reckon it's because people buy then as a pup, because they're "The bees knees", can't be arsed to put the effort in to train them, then read about the world beating dogs that every one has on here, and then can't be arsed with their dog because it doesn't catch a hundred rabbits a night or doesn't do fox or deer at 8 month then sells them at 11 months old, cos they realised they haven't got the time its a joke isn't it atb smoggy Quote Link to post
victor 10 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 just liek a few stag owners i know, thay think their dog is better than mine, i say it can be but your not training him right, step 1 DO NOT HIT the f*****g thing step 2. and give them a list of shiot to do and not thay like too much effort :glare: Quote Link to post
Guest miller1989 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Nearly what i was thinking mate, My answer would be,they get the dog as a pup take it lamping at like 7 months and then think we will have a go at fox at like 9-10months and the dog pulls the fox down take a little stick and lets off quarry keeps running and dog woddles away back to owner feeling sorry for its self.......... They go out again and try running another fox a week later dog runs it and wont pull it down and take it lock, f****d the dog....simple a well bread dog f****d, first time on fox roughly id say 18-22months doubled up a few times and it will fly at them......... personally i think its unpatient owners not letting the dog have a chance to prove itself as it not yet matured, and just wreck them in the early days, My advice to anyone buying a dog would be get a pup never ever buy a so called fox dog at age on 11mnths -22mnths likelys to be f****d, get your self a pup and be patient! Good things come to people that wait! Most of these dogs will be bread from aswel so how much shit is going round these days in the litters,wrecked dogs need a pet home or simply the BULLET! Correct me if im wrong! Quote Link to post
Guest reload Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Sadly this type of product (bullX) attracts a certain type due to hype and image of said dog, and there is a ready supply of said product (bullX) which folk are happy to sell to inexperienced youth, and the breeder does not want the dog back when the buyer gets bored Both Breeder and buyers at fault IMO Quote Link to post
swamper 11 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 reload said: inexperienced youth Quote Link to post
Guest miller1989 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 reload said: Sadly this type of product (bullX) attracts a certain type due to hype and image of said dog, and there is a ready supply of said product (bullX) which folk are happy to sell to inexperienced youth, and the breeder does not want the dog back when the buyer gets bored Both Breeder and buyers at fault IMO Yes i think thats another great point, Also i think that anyone thinking of buying a bull x at a young age say 11-18 months should think twice because what has the dog been used for a too many people say it a genuine sale,some are, and most are bullshit,and your buying a rueined dog! Realy pisses me off looking at the forsale section and seeing all these dogs being passed on..........when i have a litter in 2-3 years i want good working homes only no idiots the pups will only be sold on my approval of the buyer if i dont think there suitable the pups stay with me! Just wish other breeders would think wisely! Quote Link to post
Bootsha 1,306 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 miller1989 said: Nearly what i was thinking mate, My answer would be,they get the dog as a pup take it lamping at like 7 months and then think we will have a go at fox at like 9-10months and the dog pulls the fox down take a little stick and lets off quarry keeps running and dog woddles away back to owner feeling sorry for its self.......... They go out again and try running another fox a week later dog runs it and wont pull it down and take it lock, f****d the dog....simple a well bread dog f****d, first time on fox roughly id say 18-22months doubled up a few times and it will fly at them......... personally i think its unpatient owners not letting the dog have a chance to prove itself as it not yet matured, and just wreck them in the early days, My advice to anyone buying a dog would be get a pup never ever buy a so called fox dog at age on 11mnths -22mnths likelys to be f****d, get your self a pup and be patient! Good things come to people that wait! Most of these dogs will be bread from aswel so how much shit is going round these days in the litters,wrecked dogs need a pet home or simply the BULLET! Correct me if im wrong! Impatient, also inexperienced and add in not got a feckin clue as to Bull crooses and you've about got it right mate. An adult, well bred, well socialised and well handled Bull cross at his or her work will take most peoples breath away, but you cant jump the queue, there are no short cuts to bringing on a young dog, put the time and effort in and you'll reap the rewards, cut corners and.................. just look at the for sale section. Quote Link to post
Guest miller1989 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Welsh All Black said: miller1989 said: Nearly what i was thinking mate, My answer would be,they get the dog as a pup take it lamping at like 7 months and then think we will have a go at fox at like 9-10months and the dog pulls the fox down take a little stick and lets off quarry keeps running and dog woddles away back to owner feeling sorry for its self.......... They go out again and try running another fox a week later dog runs it and wont pull it down and take it lock, f****d the dog....simple a well bread dog f****d, first time on fox roughly id say 18-22months doubled up a few times and it will fly at them......... personally i think its unpatient owners not letting the dog have a chance to prove itself as it not yet matured, and just wreck them in the early days, My advice to anyone buying a dog would be get a pup never ever buy a so called fox dog at age on 11mnths -22mnths likelys to be f****d, get your self a pup and be patient! Good things come to people that wait! Most of these dogs will be bread from aswel so how much shit is going round these days in the litters,wrecked dogs need a pet home or simply the BULLET! Correct me if im wrong! spot on! Also if i do have a little they may look pricey advertised but the right owner will get a bargin,people that give dogs away or for pennies are mad it attracts the bad owners as its a cheep or free dog! Impatient, also inexperienced and add in not got a feckin clue as to Bull crooses and you've about got it right mate. An adult, well bred, well socialised and well handled Bull cross at his or her work will take most peoples breath away, but you cant jump the queue, there are no short cuts to bringing on a young dog, put the time and effort in and you'll reap the rewards, cut corners and.................. just look at the for sale section. Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 i think that the biggest problem is any idiot buying a pet bull, winding it up and saying wow! look at him go. they then class this as a game dog and breed it to a greyhound there mate has and produce a litter of lemons. Quote Link to post
Guest miller1989 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Take a look through the last month of dogs sold on the forsale section,how many are genuine,and how many are not! Quote Link to post
furdy 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 I'm probably gonna get myself in a whole heap of trouble again as usual but what the hell......!!!!!! Smaller breeds usually enter earlier than the bigger breeds and bitches sooner than dogs, but I dont run any quarry until the dog is around 15months old and then only if its ready. Then I'll only run rabbits, would rather be late entering and miss a couple of months sport than enter early and spoil over 12 months work with a pup. Wouldn't run longears pre ban until dog was at least 18 months and sometimes waited until around 2 years old. And at least 2 years old to run hornies. Not bothered about charlie to be honest but same principle applies. As far as having litters goes, I had two litters from really good all round working stock. I kept a pup from each litter back for myself and they were outstanding. Most of the others turned out to be crap cause the idiots that bought them were clueless. In my defence, its quite hard to judge a potential home on the strengh of a short meeting but that was a mistake I made due to lack of experience. If I ever had a litter again I'd want the pups sold to decent stockmen before I evev put the dogs together. I get the feeling that some people see pups as a money spinner. Quote Link to post
Alaunt 4 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 dances i agree with you,you need the right bull in the first place and it helps if the greyhound is tested Quote Link to post
dodger 2,921 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 reload said: Sadly this type of product (bullX) attracts a certain type due to hype and image of said dog, and there is a ready supply of said product (bullX) which folk are happy to sell to inexperienced youth, and the breeder does not want the dog back when the buyer gets bored Both Breeder and buyers at fault IMO Quote Link to post
Garypco 3 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 there are def more bullsx about so theres gunna be more for sale..theres no bigger dog swapper than the average coursng man...so you cant really say that about the bull owners i will say one or two things tho...there are too many on here who have taken up hunting with no idea of what it entails...also there are people always looking for something better than theyre mates have etc big balls syndrome!!! if people schooled pups better and just concentrated on working honest dogs half these dogs would not be for sale sale in the first place...instead of looking for bigger better be happy with the honest animal you have...also the dogs that dont make the grade should not be for sale in the first place....altho good dogs are ruined by bad owners!!! the good owners tend not to sell a dog on anyhow....yes sometimes things happen and yes sometimes honest good dogs do get moved on...generally a good dog doesnt need advertising tho!!! Quote Link to post
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