.22LR Range??

[Jim Taylor 0]

Whats a good all-round range to zero a .22lr in for rabbit and foxes?

In my case, a moderated CZ auto using CCI 40g hollows.

Is a 100yds optimistic?

[martin 332]

I think it is best to zero at the sort of range you are likely to be shooting,will you be shooting at 100yds,if not zero at a shorter distance.I personally zero at 50yds,as most of my shots are at that distance.

[Fisheruk 1]

Yes 50 -60 yards is plenty for subs. They stay flat to -90 anyway. Only suitable for foxes at really close range. Probably not on your ticket, be careful

[Jim Taylor 0]

Yes 50 -60 yards is plenty for subs. They stay flat to -90 anyway. Only suitable for foxes at really close range. Probably not on your ticket, be careful

Whats the best ammo to use? or is it simply a larger calibre rifle? dont want any bother!!!

[Fidgety 8]

Depends if you got fox on your ticket, or if your police force considers fox to be classed as vermin, if i doubt, call them.

Plenty of discussion on here re fox/.22lr recently, try the search.

Apparently, the rules change with region............ :wacko:

Edited February 11, 2009 by Fidgety

[claybusers al 9]

realy you need bigger for foxs .222 .17rem .243 everyone will have there choice its only a last resort at sub 50yds with a .22 and HV loads

[tommym 0]

60 yds for rabbits no problem, foxs ???

try winchester subs, great for this rifle.

rgds,

tommy

[Mr_Logic 5]

50 yard zero for subs, only good to 100 really anyway.

 

Regarding foxes, they work if you can hit them right, mostly that works out to 50-odd yards.

[Jim Taylor 0]

50 yard zero for subs, only good to 100 really anyway.

 

Regarding foxes, they work if you can hit them right, mostly that works out to 50-odd yards.

Thanks for all the advice lads.

[clivej 0]

It depends on how good you are now. Can you shoot 1/2" groups @50m now with your CZ auto???? If not then you shouldn't be taking shots at fox's and stick to the rabbits. Head shots are the only humain way to kill fox's with a 22lr if at all.

I zero my CZ 22lr @50m now and know I'm 1 1/2" high @30m and 4" low @75.

I can take head shoots on rabbits @100m but only when I'm set up to do so and have the zero set for that range.

If you can't kil a fox with 1 shot then leave it, you don't want or need to take his jaw off and leave the fox to die painfully do you ?

[humperdingle 0]

I have the CZ581 - predecessor, but almost identical to the CZ511, and I use Remington subsonics in it most of the time. Reliable enough as long as the action is kept clean.

 

Fox with a .22 rimfire, and you would need a special condition on your cert. My force won't allow any rimfire for fox.

[moosedog 2]

I think but i could be wrong that the cumbria force regard fox as vermin so as long as you have vernin on your ticket you would be alright, but as i say im not sure mabye some one else on here would know .

[pipmoff 0]

No Im in cumbria and have vermin, fox & deer on my ticket they are classed seperately. I have fox on my .223 & 6.5 but not on the .22lr or .17hmr.

[Mr_Logic 5]

You don't need to shoot a half inch group at 50 yards to kill a fox at that distance also - a fox has a reasonable kill zone, even the head, at that range. A 1 inch group is more practical.

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regarding fox and vermin conditions, well, I just got kicked off AirgunBBS because of that one so I shall be brief. Since firearms licensing departments do this differently, that in itself creates a grey area. Added to this is that fact that fox is widely considered to be vermin, so it's very ambiguous.

 

I got told by Thames Valley that foxes are vermin, so crack on. other people in Thames Valley got told different.

 

In a court of law, which is really what this needs, you would have to prove that fox isn't vermin to prove that someone breached the terms of their firearm certificate, which, providing all other permissions etc were in place and the fox killed humanely, is the only possible contravention of law.

 

I don't think anyone could prove a fox not to be vermin. Therefore, you would almost certainly not be found guilty of an offence.

 

HOWEVER, if you managed to find a copper that cared passionately about preparing evidence for the CPS to prosecute, you would already have had a lot of bother by the time you get to court.

 

We do need a court case for this, but I for one do not want to be it. I shoot foxes with my rimfires on a vermin condition because I was told to. My ticket is in for variation for another calibre, so I asked for fox on everything while it's there - while I accept they told me to carry on, getting it in writing is best all round.

Edited February 13, 2009 by Mr_Logic

[cyclonebri1 8]

I'll add a penniesworth too;

 

Best zero from the ballistics stuff appears to be 59yds for subsonic stuff, 1/2" low at 50 and the same at 20.

 

Longest shot I've taken on .22 was 175yds, shot 3 feet over on estimate but shot dead as a dodo. (rabbit)

 

Chose the round to suit your gun, Winchester has come in for some serious critcism recently, from me included.

 

I've asked the question before so here it is again, has anyone ever been "troubled" by having shot a Fox with a .22. Everyone I have ever shot has been within 40 yrds and dropped before I could lower the gun, fox with a shotgun raises far more issues.