Royston2 0 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Hello all bit bored and thought i might whack this up and see what other peoples experiances are with such a cross with the gsd grey...The dog is now 11 months old and is coming along bloody well Yes i admit i thought to start with it will be a lost cause the dog had no attention span at all but he has clicked he has the most stamina for a dog of his age i have seen, an excellent nose willing to mark all quarry at every oppurtunity and is proving to be very game.....Speed factor i thought he would be slow on getting there not much turning ability basically not one of the best bred dogs there for aint gonna come of much but the thing is he is coming along very well just very slow in doing so and as i havent had any experiance of the cross i maybe had me doubts.....He is taking rabbits well on the lamp nearlly having 100% success rate now and is ratting with the terriers every week,he grabbed his first muntie buck single handed not long ago and i was impressed though he lost it in the end due to me not getting there quick enough (it was a 7 foot wobbly chain link fence though )the dog had grabbed it in this little river that was about 6 foot deep he had it on the bank by the side of the head he was screaming and so was the muntie but he wouldnt let go the only reason he lost hiss hold was when he was under water with it and it swam of gutted but not that much as this young dog next year has in my eyes made me look forward to seeing him work any one who has worked um whats ya oppinion of the cross here is a pic of him at 10 months...... Quote Link to post
Guest CharlieC Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 looks like he has threw the right way, looks more greyhound than GSD Ive seen a couple of GSD x Deerhounds, my mate Jamie used to have a pure deerhound and a deerhound x GSD, they werent really working dogs, but they used to kill a bunny from time to time, I cant see any reason why it wouldnt be a good cross so long as you made sure to breed off a GSD with good hips will be interesting to see how your young 'un progresses mate Quote Link to post
Royston2 0 Posted March 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Structurely the dog is good which is more than i can say for the modern breeding of shepeards today or should i say the majority We will see next season he will be tested on rabbits and rats obviously Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 When I lived on the farm the local gypsy boys kept a few and as I've said before, they looked nowt like that dog, but there's genetics for you. They were basically fox dogs, or that's what they were mainly used for. They did go rabbitting with them, but not all that often. Good luck with the dog. Quote Link to post
smallmouth 1 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I’ve never bred a litter of anything, but regret not using this bitch To produce something like this Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 a bloke down my way kept this type of cross for a long time and had some real nice types ... i never owned one but i know a few lads that did and they were happy with them ... the bloke gave up the game through ill health and sadly his line filtered away .... as for taking a long time to mature you will find this to be the case as all guard breeds are fairly slow to mature so i wouldnt worrie to much .... i would love to see a belgian malinois cross as they have a massive prey drive ... are much lighter framed than the german shepherd without losing any strengh or power and are a very athletic dog .... the only drawback of such a breed is that they are highly inteligent and high maintenece and as such need to be constantly kept stimulated ................ Quote Link to post
Guest CharlieC Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 If you look at pics of GSDs from 50 odd years ago, they look very much like the dog in the 2nd picture (black/white one) and they had straighter backs and a much more functional structure. Nowadays, they are bred with an exaggerated bend of stifle and a very sloping back, purely so they look good when stacked up in the showring - cos they certainly dont look good when they are shuffling round the ring thats for sure The Malinois would probably make a decent cross cos they have yet to be spoiled by the show brigade, and are still very much a working dog (im saying yet cos usually as soon as a breed comes off the import register and into the British show ring, its a slippery downhill slope ) Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,184 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 SOCKS IS THAT THE Belgian shepard u r talking about. if so i have to agree i saw one recently and immediately thought it would be a nice cross over a greyhound. Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 It's one of the Belgian Shepherds Tomo, there's three distinct types, with the Mal being the choice for the sport and security lads. Quote Link to post
Guest CharlieC Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 There are 4 varieties actually , the tervueren (placed at Crufts - think "Wellard" from eastenders lol lol ) the Groenendael (similar to the Terv but jet black) the Malinois, (short haired, like GSD but better IMO) and the least known is the Lakenois ( curly broken coated, scruffy - still used in its native country for cattle herding etc) The Terv has probably been tainted the most by the show ring, followed by the Groenendael, but the Mal and Laekenois are still definately workers in their native land Quote Link to post
Guest CharlieC Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 Looks a bit like a beardie greyhound eh? Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 I stand before you humbled and corrected Charlie Looks nowt like my beardie greyhound like Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,184 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 the 1 i saw was fawn in colour lighter build than the GSD with flat back. not unlike the second black & white photo. Quote Link to post
Guest CharlieC Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 lol Stabs , It actually looks a lot like my mate Pauls dog Sam, same colour and everything - that was the pups he bred off Marc H Glenn's dog Seamus to a greyhound bitch, she had a litter of 13 and I think all of them were scruffy little critters, mine certainly was lol, one of them went to a lad in Ayrshire who did quite well with it in obedience trials and stuff Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted March 17, 2005 Report Share Posted March 17, 2005 the tervueren and the groenendael are absolutely useless as workers since the show fraternity got hold of them .... the groenendael has had a slight reprieve as a good number of them are now being used as assistence dogs particularly for people with lower limb injurys as they are a very strong dog and can be used aids to rising ..... the lakenois is a very steady herding dog and are a pleasure to watch working ... they have the endless stamina of a border collie but conserve and use it wildly as they are a lot steadyer and very rarely get phased by anything ..... as for the malinois they may be on the small side for a protection dog but by f**k they have some jaw power .......................... Quote Link to post
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