patterdale moocher 10 Posted February 10, 2009 Report Share Posted February 10, 2009 Dog on the left bull blooded, pup on the right no bull in that dog. he is the spit of my dog mate -whats his breeding-ta Quote Link to post
TRANSIT690 0 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 i had a russel x staff 15 years ago, small body, massive head, no brains and only lasted a couple of seasons.never made a noise when entered Quote Link to post
Penda 3,341 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 There has been bull blood in many tewrriers for years actually i think nesarly every breed of terrier may contain sum sort of bull breed in it Quote Link to post
dev 226 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 my pup, 5/8 pat 3/8 bull. Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted February 11, 2009 Report Share Posted February 11, 2009 From what I've seen of mine and mates dogs with bull blood in them, they are eager to go to ground at an early age which makes you think they're ready but they are not, like Jigsaw has said the longer they're left to mature the better chance they have of doing the job... Quote Link to post
longdog13 36 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 I have been under the impression for some time that bull blooded terriers can lack in nose and finding ability as the staffordshire bull terrier was bred for other qualities that were more important to the breeder such as gameness hardness drive strenght of jaw and in general. Have any of the lads that have owned bull blooded terriers seen this. i used to own a straight bull and he always seemed to be spot on with his scenting, 'he never got to ground, he was a monster!' he tracked very well, and marked up consistantly. I've a Patt with bull ten gens back and she's like lighting when it comes to finding, and always spot on if she indicates a den is empty, it always is. Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 Had bulls with good noses and had ones with bad noses. Had a bull type bitch with 1/4 terrier in her and her nose wasn't the best. Her pure bull hunting companion was by far the better scenter. Quote Link to post
craig2103 9 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 ive just got a russel with a tinge of bull in her (dont no exactly how much) shes 10 month an shes sticking her head in the holes an snifing about alot but she does seem imature alot of the time. im in no rush to enter her but have high hopes for when she makes her debut as shes game as hell to get the girlfriends cats. Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted February 12, 2009 Report Share Posted February 12, 2009 When I was talking about finding nose I meant finding quarry underground. I know a few lads who have had some good dogs with staff in them and were slow to develop finding abity underground. Also some lines of staff do not travel well the best staff crosses I have seen have been staff russels I think this is because the russels usually have a good nose. I have my reservations about putting staff into earthdogs the reason most prominent is that they think they are a big dog in wee dogs body and usually get badly punished for it. The old breeders had the right idead of introducing a bit of staff and then breeding it out every so many generations thats what I have been told was done. I've seen bull blooded dogs find and work well in big earths, I've also seen dogs with no bull in them do the same, I think it depends on the individual dog. The dog on the left has had a few good digs in big earths, finding and botting up until dug to...he's not perfect by any stretch of the imagination but does the job I require him to do... Quote Link to post
tsmcafee 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Iv a full bred bull and was thinking about breeding her with a good patt or russel Any picture of her I crossed a Bully with a Russell. Pups are only 9 wks old now. Both parents are very game. should be great hunters. http://shamrockbullterriers.com/BullJackHybrids.aspx Quote Link to post
Guest Countryboyo Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 My staffy bitch has a great nose while out bushing, great dog to follow a scent especially hare. as for gameness and drive she hasent been fully tested yet. Quote Link to post
tsmcafee 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 English Bull Terrier x Jack Russell pups 9wks - excited about these pups. parents have a good look and are also very game. parents pictured and two of pups at 9wks. www.shamrockbullterriers.com Quote Link to post
tsmcafee 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 this is a russell my friend owns and works. he has bull in him way back. very strong. this is my favorit looking russell. Quote Link to post
Bevwallis 7 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 I have an Irish stafford bitch,just a year and whilst i shall not pretend she is the best thing that hit a whelping box she bushes quite well,has a good nose and marks well. She now marks live warrens and will dig - bolting rabbits etc but is yet to see anything bigger She is only a young dog- not one i intended for hunting of any description she just seems a natural. Her size shall limit how useful she can be - although i hope in the future (next winter) to find out just what she is or isnt made of She is taking fur and feather fairly regular of her own accord for fun so lets see. Quote Link to post
VOON 1,317 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 English Bull Terrier x Jack Russell pups 9wks - excited about these pups. parents have a good look and are also very game. parents pictured and two of pups at 9wks. www.shamrockbullterriers.com Nice Looking Pups, a lot of boys in Ireland bred working dogs like this but you dont hear of a lot bred this way now. Voon. Quote Link to post
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