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I agree that drovers would have moved around the country all over, especially down to Smithfield in London as it was a bit market. However lots were local folk, who would work particular droves or run

somebody give him Jeff Burrell's number....he breeds smithfields talk to him

I am not keen on Moderation,...I've never done what convention dictated I do,...and that is how I still run, what is left of my life...in short, I am a great believer in letting folk do what they want

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7 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

inbreeding is breeding from brother sister mother son etc 

how do all line start off from inbreeding 

 

A line is a related family of dogs that has been formed by mating related dogs together...Line breeding is as close as you choose to go and if it works nothing is to close....

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4 minutes ago, fireman said:

A line is a related family of dogs that has been formed by mating related dogs together...Line breeding is as close as you choose to go and if it works nothing is to close....

so what is inbreeding ? 

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10 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

I’m sat in a puddle a tea after pissing myself reading his shite ?

i’m sat here creased up myself ? 

we have a serious dog man running a half kelpie ? 

rio hog who’s old so gets credit for still been out but i’ve had 12 month old pups stopped more daytime hares then his last 3 dogs put together there full lives ? 

mans fireman who thinks breeding mother son is linebreeding ? 

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4 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

i’m sat here creased up myself ? 

we have a serious dog man running a half kelpie ? 

rio hog who’s old so gets credit for still been out but i’ve had 12 month old pups stopped more daytime hares then his last 3 dogs put together there full lives ? 

mans fireman who thinks breeding mother son is linebreeding ? 

if all i had to do was point and slip , i wouldnt bother  ,but a man with your vast experience will know far more about it than me, although maybe i have learned a few tricks in 50 odd years  , the main lesson i learned was dont let every tom dick and bellend know what your doing !!!

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8 minutes ago, riohog said:

if all i had to do was point and slip , i wouldnt bother  ,but a man with your vast experience will know far more about it than me, although maybe i have learned a few tricks in 50 odd years  , the main lesson i learned was dont let every tom dick and bellend know what your doing !!!

if you would a had anything coursing bred or pure that was half descent you’d know you go out you want it on a lead unless it’s dark or you want things killed you can’t just walk em off the lead we’re ever or you will be in the bother they quater up a field and be on something not to mention hunt up with nose in cover they only have hunt mode 

unless it’s an overweight pet that has as much preydrive as a vegan ? 

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2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

if you would a had anything coursing bred or pure that was half descent you’d know you go out you want it on a lead unless it’s dark or you want things killed you can’t just walk em off the lead we’re ever or you will be in the bother they quater up a field and be on something not to mention hunt up with nose in cover they only have hunt mode 

unless it’s an overweight let that has as much preydrive as a vegan ? 

im quit happy for them to hunt up daytime fur or feather  i am out 7 days a week as ive said before i dont allways see game ,but im happy to be out  i doubt you will ever get to my age but if you do ,good luck ,i have absoluty nothing to prove  ,, ive done it  !! 

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23 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

I’m going to start a seven stage help plan for some of you. 
 

Stage one - put down your phone
Stage two - take out your dog ......

In fact let’s keep is simple and leave it at two stages .....

pup had a mooch and bigger dogs be out once dark later sheep chill on computer today for me greyhounds and horses haven’t had a little gamble for a month o so then after walking older dogs i’ll watch the boxing 

 

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I am not keen on Moderation,...I've never done what convention dictated I do,...and that is how I still run, what is left of my life...in short, I am a great believer in letting folk do what they want to do in life....

Each to their own, etc...?

BUT,.. sometimes,....these Sites, Forums, gatherings ,...seem to NEED some kind of Moderation...not too much,. just enough to keep interesting subjects on track, and to keep personal asides and 'bish bash' arguments away from the original thread....There is so much free info and knowledge, readily available to interested parties, but it gets kinda lost (and wasted) if constant silliness is allowed to prevail.. There is a time and a place for all kinds of banter, craic and piss taking,. but surely we can finish the important and serious stuff first,...or,...it is really all,... a total waste of time...

Is it really so fecking boring,.. just to talk sensible about different dogs and hunting tales.....?

 

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2 minutes ago, riohog said:

im quit happy for them to hunt up daytime fur or feather  i am out 7 days a week as ive said before i dont allways see game ,but im happy to be out  i doubt you will ever get to my age but if you do ,good luck ,i have absoluty nothing to prove  ,, ive done it  !! 

?what happens when your trying to get a bambi stashed with dog walkers about ? there’s a time and place to let them off the lead 

why won’t i get to your age ? i have uncles same issue as i had they’ve  got nearly a decade on you i don’t need any luck what will be will be ?

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1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

?what happens when your trying to get a bambi stashed with dog walkers about ? there’s a time and place to let them off the lead 

why won’t i get to your age ? i have uncles same issue as i had they’ve  got nearly a decade on you i don’t need any luck what will be will be ?

if i need to tell you everthing you ask  , you havnt done much  apart from talk about it ;)

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