PBurns 9 Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 "Surely it will get up to it?" Uh ... no. A dog cannot trench 20 feet down a pipe or blast rock or gnaw through very thick root. Desire has nothing to do with it. Desire will get a dog through a few narrow obstructions, but if the dog is fundamentally too big in the chest it cannot follow a fox in a tight earth. Not all earths are tight, but enough are tight that a very large dog has limiting uses. A small dog, on the other hand, can get anywhere -- and can get out too if needed. The big dog is the wrench that can fit only one time of nut -- the small dog can generally fit many. P. Quote Link to post
Kane 2 Posted March 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 A decent Border dog (now gone) was a bit big for those realy tight earths, but one of my favourites. Quote Link to post
phil wright 2 Posted March 20, 2005 Report Share Posted March 20, 2005 all i can say is my first plummer was 12 inches and would bolt foxes out of small earths but it would take a while with a lot of waffling/baying.i used to put this down to tight tubes.however when i got my next plummer which was 14 inch,from a different breeder, she would have them bolting in seconds from the same earths. but then she wasnt scared of getting bit. Quote Link to post
Guest BORDERFOX Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 Im a lurcher lad mate so I dont know but surely its a case of finding the right tool for the job? Quote Link to post
Hybred 3 Posted March 21, 2005 Report Share Posted March 21, 2005 PBurns i don't know any terrier that can trench 20 ft down through a pipe no they can't blast rock and they don't carry a chain saw , well mine don't who said they could but a small dog in the counrty i hunt would get knocked to bits then would'nt work for a week because it has to rest up , not much use if you get another lambing call i said a big dog what i call a big dog will be different from you or wireviz .Suppose it come back to the usual on the internet what's a big dog , what is working , etc Hybred Quote Link to post
Printer 34 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 For me the bigger dog, within reason, as long as it’s flexible and agile, qualities that are derived from a good length of back, but above all it must be narrow, these are some of the easily seen physical qualities I like……… ……………..But more importantly are the less easily seen qualities that are required by big or small working terrier, a natural instinct to hunt, nose, courage, determination and a great deal of common sense. Printer Quote Link to post
Kane 2 Posted March 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 Both from the same lines the bitch is bred tighter causing I think her to have been thrown smaller,just intrested in others experiances of digging to small terriers.She is 6months old 11inch at shoulder and 13 pounds. Quote Link to post
Royston2 0 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 She`s grown mate She`s still got that same f**k of look though aint she...I cant see you having any problems mate Quote Link to post
PBurns 9 Posted March 22, 2005 Report Share Posted March 22, 2005 11 inch dog on Sunday. Dog entered another hole but came out this one, as did the quarry. Solid roots all the way around and could not even get a digging bar in anywhere else -- no other holes were possible into this rock-root den and we had to cut three roots just to make this hole. Each to his own, but I want a dog that can get up to it -- and can get out of it too. We would have needed a chainsaw for a bigger dog. We have some tight pipes over here in the states, but most are bigger than this, thank God. Patrick Quote Link to post
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