matt11 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 b and f is a hell of a tool to find but i dont think as accurate as pin pointing as an old knocker box.you can move it 12 inches sometimes over the top without changing,have gone down the side a few times now. Quote Link to post
Guest ROUGH COATED Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 just out of intrest av used both terrier finders but a think the bellman and flint are over rated Bellman n flint are very good i think Forget the arrows concentrate on the numbers, All the best!! Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 the numbers do sometimes jump about like that, dont know why it happens tho. the dog is settled and in the one spot but for some reason the numbers jump up high then come back again imeditatly, strange but weve got used to it. also we never go by the arrows a think the worst finders av ever uesd was thay mk3 thay are shit we could here the dog baying clear as day and the finder said 8ft so a pushed a tree sake into the ground and broke on top of the dog not even 1/2ft deep av never heard a good word from anybody about thay finders absolut shit Quote Link to post
bud9 79 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 the numbers do sometimes jump about like that, dont know why it happens tho. the dog is settled and in the one spot but for some reason the numbers jump up high then come back again imeditatly, strange but weve got used to it. also we never go by the arrows the worst terrier finders av ever used was the mk3 thay were shit av never heard a good word from anybody about thay finders we used them and we could here the terrier clear as day and thay finders said 8ft so a pushed a tree stake right on top of the dog not even 1/2ft deep Quote Link to post
sp.w 42 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 i've used both over the years and the b&f is alot better than the deben mk1.the deben was good but the b&f is the dog's bollocks! Quote Link to post
smasher 1,055 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Give me the B&f any day, saves all that goin around bet over tryin to get a mark,walkin in zig zags and through brambles tryin to locate the dog,but i always bring a mark 1 along as back up Quote Link to post
Guest GoneToGround1 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 oh please come on!! theres no competition im not use to the b&f and i thought it was pretty shti when i 1st seen 1 work last week. then a diffferent story when a mate got his hands on it hes dug with it a good few times bang he was on the dog we broke through on the dogs neck, whats better? knocker boxes well what can i say feck walking round an earth zigzagging making alot of bump bump bumping, i recently bought the barryvox pulse and im over the moon with it Quote Link to post
liamdelaney 2,587 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 The b f are the biz.The early grey boxes were good when they came out first.But the later ones gave a lot of trouble packing in for no reason i lost a good dog to ground last year with the grey box then i baught a b f if ibaught it earlier my dog would be alive now.Its small money to pay to safeguard a good dog. PS The new debens are dirt Quote Link to post
chilli 381 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Have found with the b+f when used in false earths made with pvc pipe you cannot get a reading , but apart from that there is no contest for me . Quote Link to post
match 0 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 is the b+f better than the ortovox? Quote Link to post
billy2les 0 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 is the b+f better than the ortovox? hi, can you tell me about ortovox and give details Quote Link to post
terrier s 123 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) is the b+f better than the ortovox? hi, can you tell me about ortovox and give details undergroundterriers.com try that mate ortovox on there Edited February 8, 2009 by terrier s Quote Link to post
billy2les 0 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 is the b+f better than the ortovox? hi, can you tell me about ortovox and give details undergroundterriers.com try that mate ortovox on there thanks, been doing this job over 30years cant get on with b@f ,my old debens are ok but ill give these a look Quote Link to post
higgins 75 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 give plenty of time for dog to settle,regardless of which system you use they are all using the same technology,B+F,Ortovox it's all the same,the only criteria to rely on is a steady mark either in depth or numbers,if the signal is steady that's the right signal,i don't own a B+F,thinking of purchasing a Barryvox from Bryan and collar from Strong Stuff,i presently use a Deben,nowt wrong with Deben,many digs in the past were successful due to them being available,and at the end of the day ANY system is preferable to none at all, Higgins. Quote Link to post
hue jeers 6 Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Barryvox Box + Bellman or Ortovox collar The little grey box is like a little old Grey Ferguson tractor, the first and for a long, long time very good. It still does an excellent job but has been surpassed by bigger and more powerful tools. In fact if the little grey box was invented at the time of the Pharoes, they would have built a Pyramid to it Quote Link to post
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