anyone seen this

[SMOGGY 34]

Aaronpigeonplucker, Am i right in thinking that originally you said all farmers / gamekeepers should have nine foot fences, but now your saying only small holding? So am i right in thinking your saying it ok to snare and shoot foxes as long as you have plenty of land

 

End of the day,foxes are pest,they need controling, you like shooting rabbits but you can't stand the idea of shooting foxes sounds like your a bit confused,

 

Unfortunetly it's people with these way out ideas, like your self, that fuel the anti support, cos all you get is if one can do it why can't they all. and wouldn't the counrtyside be a wonderful place total surrounded by nine foot fence

 

atb smoggy

[stubby 175]

. but on very small amount of land where urban foxes are causing trouble

 

urban, you mean town foxes well we live on the outskirts of a town, very large garden, the local "urban" fox came in a few months back, killed a duck and chicken , had it been to feed its young, I may have understood, but no, it ripped their throats out and left them laying there, up till that point, I had a liking for urban foxes, and although I knew they were hunted, never felt that way myself, even though Im a pestie, I say "WAS" as Im now 100% against foxes, wether they are urban or rurual, and they dont visit our garden as much now

 

I can see your still a young lad, but after seeing a picture of your first shot squirrel, what would your reply be to someone that say's "don't shoot squirrels", you need to deciede, what side of the fence your standing on,

[TOMO 25,988]

ok arron , grey squirrels arnt native to this country, rabbits on the other hand were reported to be introduced by the romans around 2000 year ago. i think that prety much qualifies them to be native. personly i think they were already hear it was only a 2000 years erlier we were conected to europe , but thats another debate.

 

also your name is aronpigion plucker, so i asume you shoot pigions. there also native

[aaronpigeonplucker 32]

if foxes took 1 chicken (if they managed to get pas my fence)then i wouldent really care but why do they kill so many birds and only eat a few?

[aaronpigeonplucker 32]

and actually rabbits where introduced by the normans, they proved it

[Matt 160]

I've got an idea..............

 

Rather than have a nine foot fence, why don't we put all chickens into cages that are big enough to hold each individual? You could give them the right amount of food, and water, and use electric lighting to keep them laying...... that way, they wouldn't be able to feather peck, and the foxes would not be able to get to them.........

 

Good idea?

 

 

Back in the real world........

 

People want free range chickens. If you put a nine foot high fence around them, they wouldn't be very free range would they?

 

It's not just the chickens that get killed. Did you notice that none of those chickens were coming out? The reason for that is that all animals change their behaviour if they are being predated. Egg laying birds also go off lay.

 

Whilst I accept that there is a growing number of people who are killing foxes for sport, the population will continue to grow, much as it did during the seventies and eighties when skins were fetching a good price.

 

Naivety is not a crime, but it is a disease of the young.

[TOMO 25,988]

and actually rabbits where introduced by the normans, they proved it

 

 

your wrong young fella , at a recent archeological dig they found evidence of rabbits , this was a roman dig FACT

[TOMO 25,988]

HERE YOU GO ARRON

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/animals/pets/rabbits.shtml

[trader 0]

Don't shoot foxes or snare foxes as that farmer could have easily avoided all those chicken deaths by making his fence to 9 feet and adding an overhang. i have a nine foot fence with an overhang and have NEVER had a foxy attack. this is what all gamekeepers and farmers should do to protect there poulty/gamebirds. i am a avid rabbit and squirrel shooter/snarer but have nothing against foxes. please don't snare or shoot foxes as they are NATIVE and not introduced. i know there are foxes around my smallholding as i see tracks around my chicken run. PLEASE DON'T SNARE OR SHOOT FOXES!

i think you are on the wrong site pal

[longdog2000 1]

Same topic but slightly different.

few years ago, whilst working at a well known zoo, we had 13 humbolts penguins killed over night, so we erected a very secure electrified fencing system, so much so we called the enclosure Stalag luft.

all was good for months, absolutly impenetrable. or so we thought.

One heavy frosty night and old charlie simply walked over the frozen pool and killed another 13.

 

26 grands worth of birds

 

Shoot them.

They will get in at some point

Just my tuppence worth

[dicehorn 38]

if foxes took 1 chicken (if they managed to get pas my fence)then i wouldent really care but why do they kill so many birds and only eat a few?

 

 

Hello Aaron - Nobody seems to want to answer your question, seeming to prefer giving their own opinions on your opinions.

 

The reason a fox will kill so many chicken/pheasants has nothing to do with 'Foxes just love killing' far from it. A fox is an oportunist - if he has the good fortune to get into a pen full of chicken, he is programmed to kill all he can, take one and, if possible keep returning until he has collected all the dead. He will bury the dead hens for consumption at a later date. I know, I have walked a wood after a fox visit and seen legs/heads and wings sticking out from a shallow grave where his nose will find it later.

 

Usually his efforts are noticed by the gamekeeper/hen owner and it is usually just a matter of waiting by the crime scene to dispatch the fox upon its return.

 

Its a bit like kids going into an orchard to pinch apples - they don't just pinch one apple - they fill their pockets with more than they can eat.

 

Unfortunately it is very necessary to control foxes - the good news for the fox is that with our mild winters (hm...except for the last two weeks ) our winters are quite mild and therefore the vixens are in good condition and very fertile and come the spring can easily support rearing up to five cubs where not so many years ago a vixen would struggle to rear three cubs to maturity.

 

Having watched the video posted by the OP I would bet that fox was shot around late July early August, the fox did not kill that chicken then rush around to kill more, he was taking that live chicken back to its cubs to teach them how to kill. Seen the same myself many times where I control foxes on fields that support about 1/2 million organic laying hens.

 

Trust that answers your question

 

Peter

Edited February 8, 2009 by dicehorn

[dicehorn 38]

My email to Aaron - lets hope the moron who sent a bullying email to this young lad is now not on this forum to read this.

 

Hi Aaron

 

You asked about the destruction foxes do. I have written a reply on that thread for your benefit

 

Peter

 

PS Sorry to hear you have had problems with a member on here. No matter what forum you go on there is a small minority of mindless assholes that want to bully others that do not share their opinions.

 

PPS I dont agree with you either re foxes, but understand you are welcome to your opinion - we would all have nothing to say on this forum if we all thought the same.

 

Stay with us - most of us are good guys.

[CZ452American 0]

got this from another site. not what you see everyday

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7458007.stm

 

 

nice dog how old is it.

[Guest Mass_G3nocide]

got this from another site. not what you see everyday

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7458007.stm

 

 

 

Brilliant video thanks for sharing....

[DIGGIT 6]

Don't shoot foxes or snare foxes as that farmer could have easily avoided all those chicken deaths by making his fence to 9 feet and adding an overhang. i have a nine foot fence with an overhang and have NEVER had a foxy attack. this is what all gamekeepers and farmers should do to protect there poulty/gamebirds. i am a avid rabbit and squirrel shooter/snarer but have nothing against foxes. please don't snare or shoot foxes as they are NATIVE and not introduced. i know there are foxes around my smallholding as i see tracks around my chicken run. PLEASE DON'T SNARE OR SHOOT FOXES!

 

 

ok mate ill stop shooting them just for you